On 11/11/05, Mark Fuqua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really can't believe Ruby would be/could be quicker than PLUM.
Nor can I. RoR requires you manually generate controllers, models and scaffolding. If you want a nicely formatted page / form, you need to write it yourself since the defaults are ugly ass tables that don't really let you tweak them easily with CSS. PLUM does a lot more auto-generation so it's bound to be faster and I suspect the generated code is easier to modify visually. I'm glad to see someone who isn't foaming at the mouth about RoR! :) However, my voiced concerns about scalability (of applications) in regard to RoR also apply to PLUM. The automation in both of these 'products' targets a specific type of data-entry application - a very common one, granted, but still a specific problem space. Once you get beyond that core problem space, you are back to writing code. Barney's already mentioned the cross-platform issues here so I won't belabor that. My other complaint about PLUM (that is, technically, applicable to RoR) is that it doesn't play nice with your framework-of-choice. I think this just highlights the point about using the right tool for the job. I personally think RoR is totally over-hyped (and I feel David and Adam are a little too fervent about PLUM but, hey, they created it). I don't want to get into a(another) flame war about PLUM. If ever they port it to Java (or create a workable Mono version) and make it work with MySQL, I'll certainly try it - I try pretty much anything that will run on my platform so that I have plenty of tools at my disposal. -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224036 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54