Total RAM used is *not* the sum of the "Mem usage" and "VM" columns in task
manager.  See http://shsc.info/WindowsMemoryManagement - the punchline is
right at the end.

Jaime Metcher

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2007 2:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Editor
>
>
> I said that Eclipse only runs well on 2GB of ram and then
> everyone comes out of the woodwork and says "I got 2GB of RAM and
> it runs fine!" What is the point of that post?
>
> I'm very glad for you that have 2GB of RAM (and mildly jealous),
> but the average non-brand-spanking new machine has 512MB of RAM
> which is simply not enough to run Eclipse properly.
>
> I also specifically said that it uses 400MB of [RAM + VM] and I
> get responses from people that clearly leave off the VM (which is
> extremely relevant).
>
> For reference, in order to see the total RAM (including VM) that
> an app uses, open Task Manager, click View, click Columns, check
> off "Virtual Memory" and sum the RAM + Virtual Memory for the
> total RAM used.
>
> After using eclipse for 5 minutes, you will see the total RAM is
> at or (far) above 400GB. That is an obscene amount of memory for
> a program to use. Visual Studio, which is all the IDE Eclipse is
> and more, uses 1/10 (~40MB) of that at load time and 1/3 (100 -
> 150MB) of that when you have 20 files open and are compiling software.
>
> I honestly dont understand how everyone cheers about such a
> poorly written memory hog. I understand that its free and you get
> what you pay for, but there are limits.
>
> In short, as I said in my original post, use Eclipse if you have
> 2GB or more of RAM. Don't if you don't.
>
> 

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