>See that's the problem.  Everyone is more than happy to jump on the band
>wagon *after* there is a mature solution which is worth their time.
>However, the chicken precedes the egg here, and the chicken is a
>community of developers willing to put in months (or years) of work to
>get a product to that point.  I fear our community doesn't have enough
>of those people willing to roll up their Java/.NET sleeves and make open
>source CF really fly.  

Actually, what we really need is simply more people to use these other servers 
and give them support. I do a lot to promote BlueDragon to my users when they 
are looking for alternatives, and am putting a lot of time right now into 
testing on Railo and making that a good option for them as well. I've not 
looked at Smith Project in a while, but can certainly look at that in the 
future if it looks viable for complex applications as well. The more people 
that use these servers with different types of sites, the more we as a 
community can flesh out the problems, and make sure that they *are* fully 
compatible and will not give people headaches if they move over from 
ColdFusion. There's also other ways people can help with open source projects, 
other than just code...as much as I'm a fan of Railo, the documentation really 
does suck big time, and I'd love to see them get someone to do nothing but work 
on clear, well-written documentation on installing and using the server, as I 
do think it's the biggest stumbling block for people that are not easily able 
to figure things out themselves. 





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