Your point is well-taken, Charlie. And yes, I do use CF, but I need some language to program in and CF is so easy to program.
However, I don't depend on any IDE for coding. I stay away from wizards, etc. I hand-code everything, except for what I borrow from others. I just like to understand my code and not get stuck if a "program" should become unavailable. Now, depending on a "foundation" program, such as CF is a little different than what I'm talking about. But no, I have never used Dreamweaver, and, after using Eclipse for a few months, I gave it up. Not because Eclipse wasn't suitable... it didn't generate any code for me...but because I couldn't get it to function with CFE, SVN, and FTP the way I wanted. It was my fault, but I just needed to put it aside for the time being to get some work done. And yes, Subversion, like Windows, is a tool I use in my work, but it doesn't do the work for me. Subversion just watches my back as I work. But the whole point about Model Glue or any other framework is that it probably does a lot of stuff I wouldn't understand, and if something went wrong, then I might not be able to fix it. Now, I'm just expressing a view from a perspective of ignorance, not having used any frameworks. That's why I said I'd take a look...I would just do it with some trepidation. I just like to avoid dependence unless it's necessary or there's a great benefit from the risk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Waaahhhh! Why won't my CFC work! > > you mean a "product" like ColdFusion? or a "product" like Dreamweaver > or Eclipse? or a "product" like Subversion. > > Yeah, i can't imagine anyone wanting to use and become dependent on > any of those "products". > > (and yes, I know that you use all of those, and yes, I'm trying to > make a point). > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Rick Faircloth > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, I don't know... I'm a little leery of getting involved > > with a "product" and becoming dependent on it. I'll have a look, > > but... > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Rick > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:10 PM > >> To: CF-Talk > >> Subject: Re: Waaahhhh! Why won't my CFC work! > >> > >> >Thanks for the info, Matt. > >> > > >> >I think I've got a handle on those methods. > >> > >> > >> Rick, I know you just moved up to cf8 from allaire -4, but you gotta dload > >> model glue and give it > > a > >> whirl. Follow ray's blog. > >> > >> Will > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307891 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4