> For one specific host we discounted the cost of ColdFusion > 8 by over $1M in good faith, and asked the hosting company not to > charge more for CF than they do for ASP/PHP. In the end, the hosting > company decided not to alter it's prices because the CF community is > willing to pay the premium.
Is it just me or does this seem like a fricking kick in the face to *both* Adobe and the CFML Community at large? Hmmm... what hosting company do we know of that has the resources to pull this kind of completely selfish and short-sighted BS? It's a shame you didn't mention the hosting companies name. I would love to have some place to direct my loathing. -Jordan Adrocknaphobia wrote: > We are working to find an alternative way to license ColdFusion to hosting > companies that is more cost effective for the smaller shops. > > However, it's a common misconception that the price of ColdFusion is > proportionate to the cost of hosting. Hosting companies don't pay anywhere > near list price. For one specific host we discounted the cost of ColdFusion > 8 by over $1M in good faith, and asked the hosting company not to charge > more for CF than they do for ASP/PHP. In the end, the hosting company > decided not to alter it's prices because the CF community is willing to pay > the premium. Can't say I really blame them, after all ColdFusion is a > premium server/language compared to the the competition. > > This is my personal opinion, so please take it with a grain of salt, but I > don't believe the shared hosting model will be around much longer. The costs > of virtual private machines has been steadily dropping and cloud vendors > like Amazon and Microsoft are driving costs down. Today Amazon offers a > Linux AMI for as little as $40/month. Rather than spend engineering > resources on a proprietary user/domain model that hosting companies would > likely ignore, I'd rather remain focused on innovating ColdFusion > development and try to bring a lost-cost version of CF to market that makes > virtual machine hosting cheaper than shared hosting. Do you really want to > spend another decade sharing a directory? > > If you are willing to take the risk to move to one of the clone engines, you > should check out OpenBD on the Google App Engine. Free is hard to beat. ;-) > > -Adam > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Paul Alkema > <paulalkemadesi...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hey Gerald, >> I definitely agree with Kevin, If you're looking for a great CFML engine to >> run on your server and don't have the $$ for Adobe's ColdFusion, look into >> Railo. I develop on both and have found Railo to be very comparable to >> Adobe's Coldfusion. >> http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/download/#primary >> >> Paul Alkema >> http://www.AlkemaDesigns.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:23 PM >> To: cf-talk >> Subject: Re: Possible switch to CFEclipse >> >> >> While I have your attention. Could you, meaning Adobe, for the love of God >> and all that supports the CF community at large, put out a version of CF >> Server that a hosting company can use that offers some sort of user/domain >> based security with out us having to shell out $7500? >> >> Or in other terms: An affordable way to for us (the community) to provide >> Adobe ColdFusion hosting? >> >> Thanx >> G! >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Adrocknaphobia >> <adrocknapho...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Aptana, jQuery, ExtJS and AIR are all baked into ColdFusion Builder... >> with >>> just one install. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Andy Matthews <li...@commadelimited.com >>>> wrote: >>>> Aptana also has a plugin which allows you to code for Adobe AIR. >>>> >>>> http://andymatthews.net/category/AIR/ >>>> >>>> >>>> andy >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:39 PM >>>> To: cf-talk >>>> Subject: Re: Possible switch to CFEclipse >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I am currently using Homesite+ for my IDE a >>>> I made that leap a couple of years ago. This is my rig that I have been >>>> tweeking for the last couple of years and the "what and why" of what I >>> use >>>> for CF/Web work. >>>> >>>> One thing to remember with Eclipse. More Plugins = More ram. I also >> make >>> it >>>> a habit to jack up the RAM allotted to Eclipse from 256 megs to 512 in >>> the >>>> eclipse.ini file. This will speed things up considerably. >>>> >>>> I start off with the PHP Eclipse distro because, well, I work with PHP >> a >>>> lot. But even if I didn't, it has a lot of the basic tools I use for >> web >>>> dev. Like support for XAMPP, Mysql etc >>>> >>>> Then I add the Aptana plugin and add it's plugins for Ajax, SVN, AIR >>>> support >>>> and what ever tickles my fancy at that moment. Some people are very >> vocal >>>> against Aptana (I mean some people just flat out despise it) . It has a >>>> nasty habit of firing up it's start up page every time you load it. >> You >>>> can >>>> turn this off by going to: >>>> >>>> Window > Preferences >Aapata > Start up page >> and disable the start >> up >>>> page >>>> >>>> If you ask me, Aptana is fantastic for working with (X)HTML, CSS, JS, >>> Ajax, >>>> and in particular it's jQuery/JS support. It provides auto suggest, >> auto >>>> complete and inline help CSS, html, JS including all of the major >> AJAX/JS >>>> libraries as well as (inspection) for your own custom JS Libraries (and >>>> help >>>> as long as you document them). I really like it's CSS editor a lot. >>>> >>>> Then I add the Adobe CF 8.1 plugins and plop the CF 8.1 docs in the >>> Plugins >>>> folder for good measure. >>>> >>>> Then Finally I install CFEclipse. >>>> >>>> I also Use XMLBuddy a lot because, well, I like it. >>>> >>>> Good luck. >>>> >>>> G! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Terry Troxel <te...@it-werks.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> I do not want to start a flame here, just get some information to >> help >>>>> me make a decision. >>>>> I am using CF8 and not yet ready for CF9. I am currently using >>>>> Homesite+ for my IDE and would like to know what the requirements are >>>>> for installing Eclipse and CFEclipse on my 32 bit dual core laptop >> w/3 >>>>> gigs of ram. >>>>> I do not know anyone who is currently using it which is why I am >>>>> asking here. I do not do any Java programming at all and am planning >>>>> on using it to replace Homesite if that is possible and maybe get >> some >>>>> advise from all of you. >>>>> If you recommend Eclipse, which package and other plugins do I need >> as >>>>> well? >>>>> >>>>> Terry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330795 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
