> > Sorry if I don't buy the BS elitist attitude there.
In defense of Seans comments, I do not see this above statement to be even remotely true. Sean has always had a great ability to just "say it like it is"-- And I have to agree with him this time-- Please take Sean's statements for what they are, he is not singling out people or projecting an elitist POV-- he is a powerful voice of reasoning that has considerable and very valuable experience in this field, if he says something you do not agree with, there is a very good chance you could be wrong. ( I know this from my personal ego battles with myself ). This type of bashing is not doing anything productive, and in fact is just confirming what Sean said is the problems with the CF community compared to other OS community's. Especially someone like *Sean Corfield* who contributes a huge amount of time and awesome code for FREE -- (-*-reminder to self. send Sean more free T-shirts* :) If you need something for free it is out there-- you can find it-- but the statement Sean made was just making a point about software and fees associated with them-- thats it. I have to agree with Sean too, if a few hundred dollars is too much when you are looking for a paid CF cart compared to rolling your own you are in the wrong business. The people shouldn't even hire you to do it, because in the long-run, it will cost them 10 times to pay someone who is inept then to just pay for the real deal from the get-go-- that is a simple fact. If you ever have to inherit some newbie's legacy code, you will know exactly what I am talking about-- I was a newbie once too-- I have inherited all my own legacy apps-- and man did I suck at it. Even a struggling business in a poor economy should have a few hundred dollars-- I mean if 3-400 dollars has to be even discussed by a company or a developer when trying to decide if this important part of the project can be afforded or not, one must really consider if the business model is even viable at all. Especially if the software is complete-- the time to develop a cart yourself, or modify one of the existing FOSS solutions that could even remotely compare to just the limited solutions that are available in the CF world, would easily take months-- if not longer. Ill bet even CFShopCart (even with its flaws) took hundreds of hours-- if not longer to build-- the money spent on it would be a huge discount compared to doing it yourself. I deal with 9 clients right now, and they deal with 6 figure decisions on a daily basis, as do many mom and pops-- yes every corner store in the USA looks at 6 figure bills every year. Sean does know what he is talking about-- he really does-- this conversation is not about the one-off bs contract job for a startup mom and pops that is friends of your uncle Joe :) This is about bringing something (FOSSCFCART) that does not exist to our community and what it will take to pull it off. Now that is out, I am glad to see some people responding-- especially people who have positive influence on the CF community (you know who you are) and have something of value to say. Like I mentioned, I am willing to put my resources into this-- I have 12 years experience in the eCommerce world and I have the backing and capital of many well known clients who are all willing to put real resources into a FOSS CF cart. Anyone with me? Or am I on my own? -- /Kevin Pepperman "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334901 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
