> Maybe all of us "older" developers are annoying and dull. Something about
> the school of hard knocks. Even if "older" is defined in experience rather
> than age. Anyway Dave keep up the good work. I, for one, know that when I
> see your name on a post it is worth reading because it will be
> well thought
> out. I don't always agree with you but at least I know that your reasoning
> will be logical.

Very well said! I always look forward to reading Dave's posts because of the
quality and thinking put in them.

Happy Holidays,
Duane






>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 12:26 PM
> Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again
>
>
> > > I for one appreciate the heads up, not everyone considers
> > > people on this list to be script kiddies !! we are all
> > > developers here and we don't need mr Watts to baby sit us.
> >
> > You can call me Dave.
> >
> > I'm not trying to protect you from yourself, nor am I interested in
> > babysitting you. I don't give a rat's ass about you, personally, one way
> or
> > the other. Merry Chrismas to you, though, and say hi to Bill
> Wheatley for
> > me; he seems like a nice enough guy.
> >
> > This thread started with someone posting that someone else's site, in
> > particular, had a security hole. How does that give you a heads-up? What
> > information does that give you that you couldn't get from reading about
> the
> > vulnerability (use of .htr extensions on IIS)?
> >
> > Here's an analogy for you. Let's say that I figure out that a
> generic key
> > can open all locks from a particular vendor, and I announce that to the
> > world. Hopefully, I'd notify the vendor first, but shortly after that,
> > everybody else should know too, so that if they have one of these crappy
> > locks on their front door, they can fix it or switch to another lock.
> That's
> > good disclosure. On the other hand, if I say that Mike C. has
> one of these
> > locks on his front door, and he lives at 555 Dumbass Lane,
> that's not good
> > disclosure, is it? You don't have to look at everything like a lawyer to
> see
> > the difference, do you?
> >
> > > on the topic of script kiddies, there is another side to
> > > that, there is the annoying older internet worker who looks
> > > at everything like a lawyer and put disclaimers on everything
> > > and want to protect us from ourselves.  Gimme the script
> > > kiddies anyday, script kiddies grow up to be internet workers
> > > and innovators, annoying legally minded (old )programmers are
> > > just plain dull
> >
> > As far as being an "older" internet worker, how old do you
> think I am? I'm
> > kind of curious. I'll grant that I can be annoying and dull.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > fax: (202) 797-5444
> >
> >
>
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