pssst....wanna get ahead in this world people??? Listen to the older people,
they've been there and done that. Attacks against senior personnel, even in
the IT industry I generally regard as career suicide (even if they are
indeed incompetent). No I'm not saying "Kiss up to the boss". Rather I'm
saying don't call the boss a "babysitter" or "old folk". Why? He IS at the
top unlike what you said:
"Gimme the script kiddies anyday, script kiddies grow up to be internet
workers and innovators, annoying legally minded (old )programmers are just
plain dull"
Remember Dave Watts is CTO of Fig Leaf Software. Might I kindly ask where
you are?
Anyways to Dave: I've always found your posts on this list informative and
thought provoking. Where I aspire to be someday (give me about 10 years
perhaps). Just brush off this little annoyance and do what you're doing :-)
(now about that job opening at Figleaf...LOL)
Gregory Harris
Web Developer
Stirling Bridge Group LLC
P.S. Don't even think about hiring me, I like it here in SoCal :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again
> I 2nd that. Just when I think I know a good deal on a given subject Mr.
Dave
> watts always comes through with another side of things or other ways in
> which I learn a great deal. I always find his posts to be very
knowledgeable
> & helpful in many ways. He should be commended not belittled.
>
> Mike
>
>
> >From: "Duane Boudreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again
> >Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 15:17:46 -0500
> >
> > > Maybe all of us "older" developers are annoying and dull. Something
> >about
> > > the school of hard knocks. Even if "older" is defined in experience
> >rather
> > > than age. Anyway Dave keep up the good work. I, for one, know that
when
> >I
> > > see your name on a post it is worth reading because it will be
> > > well thought
> > > out. I don't always agree with you but at least I know that your
> >reasoning
> > > will be logical.
> >
> >Very well said! I always look forward to reading Dave's posts because of
> >the
> >quality and thinking put in them.
> >
> >Happy Holidays,
> >Duane
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 12:26 PM
> > > Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again
> > >
> > >
> > > > > I for one appreciate the heads up, not everyone considers
> > > > > people on this list to be script kiddies !! we are all
> > > > > developers here and we don't need mr Watts to baby sit us.
> > > >
> > > > You can call me Dave.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not trying to protect you from yourself, nor am I interested in
> > > > babysitting you. I don't give a rat's ass about you, personally, one
> >way
> > > or
> > > > the other. Merry Chrismas to you, though, and say hi to Bill
> > > Wheatley for
> > > > me; he seems like a nice enough guy.
> > > >
> > > > This thread started with someone posting that someone else's site,
in
> > > > particular, had a security hole. How does that give you a heads-up?
> >What
> > > > information does that give you that you couldn't get from reading
> >about
> > > the
> > > > vulnerability (use of .htr extensions on IIS)?
> > > >
> > > > Here's an analogy for you. Let's say that I figure out that a
> > > generic key
> > > > can open all locks from a particular vendor, and I announce that to
> >the
> > > > world. Hopefully, I'd notify the vendor first, but shortly after
that,
> > > > everybody else should know too, so that if they have one of these
> >crappy
> > > > locks on their front door, they can fix it or switch to another
lock.
> > > That's
> > > > good disclosure. On the other hand, if I say that Mike C. has
> > > one of these
> > > > locks on his front door, and he lives at 555 Dumbass Lane,
> > > that's not good
> > > > disclosure, is it? You don't have to look at everything like a
lawyer
> >to
> > > see
> > > > the difference, do you?
> > > >
> > > > > on the topic of script kiddies, there is another side to
> > > > > that, there is the annoying older internet worker who looks
> > > > > at everything like a lawyer and put disclaimers on everything
> > > > > and want to protect us from ourselves. Gimme the script
> > > > > kiddies anyday, script kiddies grow up to be internet workers
> > > > > and innovators, annoying legally minded (old )programmers are
> > > > > just plain dull
> > > >
> > > > As far as being an "older" internet worker, how old do you
> > > think I am? I'm
> > > > kind of curious. I'll grant that I can be annoying and dull.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > > > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > > > fax: (202) 797-5444
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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