>
  > One thing though...there is a severe lack of GOOD CF developers
  > in the UK.
  > It's amazing the number of people that attempt to blag it. If I
  > interview,
  > I use a simple questionaire that I walk through with the
  > potential...sometimes it really is quite embarrassing.

I have to agree with this.  There are lots and lots and lots of developers
who try to blag it.  I have come across many of them and worked for some.  I
have worked with developers who have come from HTML (and maybe a little
Javascript), and think that doing the Allaire FastTrack to ColdFusion course
(ie not the advanced course) means know ColdFusion back to front.  WRONG!!!
They also don't know anything about mailing lists and the community of
developers which in the Unix/Linux (esp. OpenSource) world is understood and
used to it's full potential.  It really does amaze me sometimes how
incredibly naive some people are!

IMHO the most important thing is to know why you do something and what is
happening in the background (something a *nix person would have a massive
headstart on).  An example would be the CFHTTP tag.  Not understanding HTTP
and it's little intricacies can catch out some normal programmers, but as CF
is such an abstracted language (ie it simplifies everything) - sometimes to
abstracted - some programmers can get caught out.  Works well most of the
time, but can be a right **** (insert favourite expletive here) to debug if
you don't understand what's actually going on.

Paul

PS A potential developer questionnaire like that could well catch out a lot
of people.

PPS Most *nix people love to do everything from the ground up.  I don't
advocate this but I do think it is useful to be able to understand why
things are done in certain ways.  If it's already built, use that and modify
it.  Programmers who are keen to build programmes from the ground up all the
time waste huge amounts of time (IMHO) however, it can be very useful in the
long run.

  >
  > Adam
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From:       Paul Johnston [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent:       Monday, January 08, 2001 10:00 AM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject:    RE: Slightly OT: CF in Europe
  >
  > Lets put it this way.
  >
  > I have been doing web development work since coming out of the
  > University
  > of
  > Bath (for all you Americans, it's an old Roman City in England that has
  > Roman Bath's in it hence the name) not too many years ago.
  >
  > Since then I have done HTML then Perl, then CF.  As far as I'm concerned
  > the
  > lack of penetration in CF means that there are not too many
  > developers out
  > there (although this is increasing).  The jobs are there (if you look in
  > the
  > right places and are good enough) but such is the perceived
  > value of ASP in
  > the development market that you would find it easier to get an
  > ASP job (and
  > for that matter a PHP job if you have the skills).  However the
  > financial
  > implications of this here are huge!
  >
  > Financially it's good to be a CF programmer in the UK -
  > especially a good
  > one.  It's even better to be a Spectra programmer (doesn't really matter
  > how
  > good yet as long as you've done the course or have experience).
  >  Don't be
  > put off that CF hasn't penetrated the market yet.  I firmly
  > believe that it
  > could (no guarantees), but the worst thing that could happen is
  > that the CF
  > programmers move away from CF!
  >
  > Paul
  >
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