You get 2 of those 3 in RoR

On 8/30/06, Blair McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Besides the support issues, there is also a level of polish in CF that other
> languages don't have. Some points are:
>
> CF components are an access="remote" away from being web services
> query-of-queries
> custom tags - they may seem like a trivial feature but can make code
> incredibly intuitive
> Blair
>
>
> On 8/30/06, Bjorn Schultheiss < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Personally I havent got down with the RoR yet, so I'm not familiar with
> the
> > ruby language.
> >
> > In terms of a Flex/CF setup there are a lot of benefits.
> > Basically you got the weight of Adobe pushing this combination to enable
> > quick deployment of apps.
> > That includes documentation, examples, engineer feedback, new updates.
> > That being said you must pay.
> >
> > I think I'll have to build a Flex/RoR app first before making an
> assessment.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Bjorn Schultheiss
> > Senior Flash Developer
> > QDC Technologies
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Barry Beattie
> > Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 10:10 AM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Why buy into CF?
> >
> >
> > please forgive me if this comes across as trolling but I'm running out of
> > ammo here in trying to keep the CF flag flying
> >
> > here's the question: Why Buy into CF?
> >
> > because of rapid development?
> > - NOPE!: not compared against RubyOnRails, it seems. It's true against
> > Java/JSP development or ASP.NET/C# but CF seems to be no longer the
> fastest
> > pocket-rocket.
> >
> > because of built-in flash remoting, making it the most cost-effective way
> of
> > supporting AMF3 for Flex2?
> > - NOPE!: "How much does WebORB for Rails cost?.. WebORB for Rails is an
> > open source project. It is available free of charge under the GNU General
> > Public License"
> >
> http://www.themidnightcoders.com/weborb/rubyonrails/faq.htm#howmuch
> > (FYI: WebOrb is a company picking up where PHPAMF left off...)
> >
> > it has features like CFDOCUMENT? Verity?
> > - NOPE!: some ppl (G'day Gareth!) found limitations with CFDocument real
> > fast and switched to using the latest iText libraries natively.
> > Ditto with Verity, replaced with Lucerne.
> >
> > CFREPORT?
> > ... dunno, could never fly that as a solution. too limiting, no interest.
> > FlashForms?
> > ... no call for them really, especially now that Flex2 is out Gateways?
> > ... could never float this as something meaningful. Either the systems
> were
> > standard, not enterprise - or - the enterprise boxes were stuck on CF6.1
> and
> > it's not enough reason to upgrade.
> >
> > it's got a large, active, supportive community?
> > ... I'd say yes compared to Java and .NET... but not against the
> > evangellical RonR world, who seems to gain the strength of 10 because
> their
> > platform is opensource. ... and everything they touch seems to turn to
> > opensource....
> >
> > So, keeping in mind CF8 in development...
> >
> > ... what could possibly entice ppl to buy into CF, either from scratch
> > - or - upgrading from CF6.1?
> >
> > this is a serious ask of, not why CF people are where they are now, but
> how
> > they can justify traveling down the CF road in the future.
> >
> > (maybe I'm gowing weary of the luddites here that won't upgrade the
> > dwindling number of servers to CF7, the undermining pro-RubyOnRails camp
> > here ... and that opensource WebOrb AMF3 news.. that's the last [EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]@
> > straw...)
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>


-- 
Mark Stanton
Gruden Pty Ltd
http://www.gruden.com

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