As to "regularly" complaining about the state of affairs of CF - i
have started one thread lamenting the lack of activity on Adobe's part
in selling ColdFusion about a year or so ago, and I joined a
discussion along with many others about 5 years ago.   Apart from
that,  despite some people's impressions to the contrary,  I have kept
my comments as positive as possible.

I should also say that the last time i raised this lack of activity in
Sydney,  I was roundly criticised for saying it.  The arguments mostly
goign along the lines of "you must be wrong about no activity in
Sydney because there are HEAPS of new servers going in right here in
<name of town>".    I was bounced off the wall by one pillar of the
coldfusion community for daring to criticise Adobe,   only to get a
private email a day later from this same person (well connected inside
Adobe) saying that he believed that Adobe senior management and
Macromedia's before them had considered the Australian subsidiary as
less than brilliant when it came to ColdFusion.  (actually he was a
lot more blunt than that!)  In other words, this person who you all
know said "YOU'RE WRONG!" on the CF-talk list,  and "I quite agree
Mike" in private.

I should also say that i have spent a lot of my life in major accounts
and government IT sales.  I know what's involved in a major sale to a
blue chip and government organisation.  I managed a sales budget of
$30million and 50 sales, support and admin staff before i got in the
web business.   I know when sales people are telling flim-flam and I
know what we ought to be seeing if Adobe were making a big effort to
sell more CF servers or LiveCycle servers.   And i dont see any of it.

So its unfair for you to characterise me as 'regularly complaining'.
 I tell the truth as i see it,  and i saw that as an important issue
at the time.

Incidentally I'm not going to say any more about that issue  I dont
want to raise this whole mess again - i only say anything now because
you were unfair characterising me that way.     I'm not going to be
drawn into a discussion of that point again  - I made my opinions
clear at the time,  and even offered help to Adobe if they wanted it.
But I guess they didn't.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month




On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> As someone who regularly complains about the state of affairs in the CF
> community, and how hard it is to find work, I would have though that you
> would be at every CFUG in an attempt to help bolster the community, network
> with people, and learn something new that may, one day, help you out on a
> job down the road.
>
> I find your attitude quite surprising, actually, considering your stated
> position.
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Mike Kear <afpwebwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry Mark, you read too much into it.  I just asked a question with
>> no implied meaning at all.
>>
>> However if Galaxy is 'alpha alpha alpha' as someone said on another
>> thread, I have to wonder about the wisdom (for me) of spending that
>> much time to hear about something that I wouldn't use in a fit.   I
>> never EVER use beta software, let alone alpha.
>>
>> Is Galaxy ready for prime time, or getting close to that stage?  or is
>> it, as that person said,  'alpha alpha alpha'?
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mike Kear
>> Windsor, NSW, Australia
>> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>> AFP Webworks
>> http://afpwebworks.com
>> ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>>
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