I can back that, at my first job, MS used to call us to ask if "everything was ok" and chit chat about upcoming stuff with our IT- centric managers, and regularly sent invites to launch of new products built on MS tech. AND it was at a large private school, so our licenses were all a fraction of the RRP... Compared that to the time (still at that job) where I got one of my directors (IT based, there was only 2) to ask about LiveCycle (I was interested in doing integration with exchange and AD for apps for our internal intranet, and logic for alot of the stuff that was being done manually.), I was told the response from adobe was something along the lines of "if you don't know how you are going to use it, its probably not worth your time and money".
At the time the were thinking of going to other MS products because of not having to manage AD permissions on CF and greater integration for MS tech with each other. The end result is obvious, they went with MS, though to date it seems the main project didn't get delivered to my understanding and currently on hold but thats another story. Also don't get me started on projects where companies buy software and spend like crazy doing integration then not achieveing fully what they wanted when it would have been a better shot at it if it was mainly custom built. @Kym I reckon you might want to talk to the Railo crew and see if you can get some sort of partnership going for Australia... I reckon its time php and .Net got some serious competition from CF in ANZ my 2 cents Chong On May 26, 3:44 pm, Kym Kovan <dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au> wrote: > On 26/05/2010 15:14, Mark Mandel wrote: > > > What are other companies out there doing? I.e. have people had > > experience with MS knocking on their door? Or any other platform? Anyone > > know first hand? > > > (I'm still waiting for the PHP evangelists to come knocking). > > I've missed all the fun as I was busy this morning, installing yet > another SQL2008 server to handle yet more clients and a couple more VMs > to put them on. Not showing off, just simple fact. > > We are a CF-only hosting company and yes, we are not cheap as hosting in > Oz is not cheap, that's _all_ hosting not just CF hosting. Like Steve > said it costs 2K a month to have a rack in a decent datacentre, we pay > well into 5 figures a month for hosting costs but for that sort of money > you get a degree of reliability that you don't get elsewhere. Its the > old, old story, you get what you pay for. We don't have 400 sites on one > web server or 200 databases on a DB server, that's what happens when you > pay $5 a month for your hosting. And if the power wobbles, we keep going. > > I got two phone calls yesterday relevant to this conversation, one from > a prospective client who was fed up with the poor service at their > existing hosting company, its in Brisbane and owned by a Victorian > company if you know the one I mean. They are coming to us at twice the > price they were paying before to get something that actually works (and > I'm talking $55pm for a CMS site not thousands for a big business site). > > The other phone call was from Microsoft! They did come knocking at our > door, metaphorically speaking! Wanted to know if we were happy, etc. We > are a CF shop but we are also a Windows shop, we own quite a few Win2008 > Datacentre licenses and SQL2008 ditto, we do spend serious (by small > business standards) money with them even if we compete with their web > technology. > > And talking of evangelising we have decided to put our CMS into the > public domain and really start promoting cfml as a language and note the > use of "cfml" there not "Coldfusion". I think that is important now, it > is in the public domain at the application platform level, it is not > just Adobe any more and we need to start making noises. > > Here in Sydney the last Coldfusion User Group meeting was a long time > ago, we now have an Adobe Platform User Group and Chris does a grand job > but apart from me jumping up and down and mentioning cfml at every > opportunity in the audience there has been no CF content in ages, its > all Flex and Flash, etc. The Adobe Way. > > I have been thinking seriously about having a cfml user group, not > directly connected to Adobe to see if we can attract a new crew of > developers. Is that a viable idea? > > -- > > Yours, > > Kym Kovan > mbcomms.net.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
