@Justin We still haven't been able to fill your web developer position (for those playing at home, Justin left here years ago), despite 3 or 4 rounds of advertising. We only just finished another round.
So I'm guessing no chance that you will be coming back to Dubbo? Of the small number of Institutes/departments using CF in our organisation (NSW Department of Education and Training) more and more are slowly removing CF, mostly due to the lack of developers, but also because most managers aren't aware of what it is and what it can do. Microsoft do a lot to promote their technology to us, while Adobe (appear) to do stuff all, especially when it comes to CF. We signed a multi million $ Enterprise Agreement with Adobe last year and CF was left out of it. If Adobe Australia was serious about CF they would have pushed for CF to be included in the EA. Cheers Mark On May 27, 4:34 am, Justin Carter <justin.w.car...@gmail.com> wrote: > The timing of this discussion is interesting to me since I've been in > Europe and the UK for the last 2 years and am heading back to Oz > around August. I was also at SOTR 2010 in London for the last couple > of days (and met Matt Bourke for the first time - Hi Matt!) and got to > discussing the Aussie CF job market with a few other antipodeans. The > market does seem quite flat to me compared to elsewhere in the world > (even London, which was hit harder than Sydney or Melbourne by the > world economy), but in saying that it's at least looking better than > it was earlier this year when there were practically no new CF jobs > being advertised - i.e. the last time one of these kind of discussions > happened - so I am at least hopeful for my own prospects :) > > I also think Adobe ColdFusion is fairly well represented at > conferences in Australia (compared to the UK) and WebDU has the chance > to attract new developers to CF since WebDU is attended by a range of > developers who use or dabble in other competing server-side languages. > WebDU is probably somewhat unique in this regard compared to other > conferences around the world where CF is represented. > > The migration away from CF issue is a tricky one... If the reason is > because there is a lack of CF developers then that is something that > we can work to solve as a community by reaching out to other web > developers and introducing them to ColdFusion, and Adobe could solve > by getting their (existing) CF educational materials into colleges and > universities. If the reason isn't due to a lack of available CF > developers then it's really something that is out of our hands as a > community (I think?) - Adobe either needs to get Evangelists or Sales > people talking to more CEO's/CIO's or to spend some cash in relevant > publications to get the ColdFusion brand out there again. (They might > already be doing this, but I have no way of knowing). No doubt it's a > bit of both though... > > Can anyone remind me of who the CF-related Adobe guys are in > Australia? Does Andrew Spaulding do CF stuff, and are there any > others? > > cheers, > Justin > > -- > Justin Carter (@justincarter)http://www.madfellas.com > > On May 26, 1:13 pm, Dale Fraser <d...@fraser.id.au> wrote: > > > > > I've spent the past 12 years as a CTO including 1 very small company, > > 1 smallish public company and 1 big public company never had a cold > > call from Microsoft at any of them > > > only people I get cold calls from are overseas offshore your development > > types > > > Dale Fraser > > > On Wednesday, May 26, 2010, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au> wrote: > > > There is already something on the Adobe site > > > (http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/hosting/). God know how you get > > > listed there > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de] > > > Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2010 9:17 PM > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: JB-HI Moving to dotnet > > > > Lol, I think what contributes to your situation is that a lot of > > > ColdFusion > > > "hosting" happens in-house or on people's own server. That's obviously the > > > chicken/egg problem as people go for their own box because they don't know > > > there is hosting in the first place. > > > > Maybe it'd be a good idea to push the idea (and options) of CF hosting to > > > user groups, i.e. start a site or a simple public google doc or something > > > listing all the hosters in ANZ that offer CF and compare plans etc. > > > > Cheers > > > Kai > > > > On 26/05/2010, at 7:42 PM, Kym Kovan wrote: > > > >> On 26/05/2010 17:04, Chris Velevitch wrote: > > >>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 16:58, Dale Fraser<d...@fraser.id.au> wrote: > > >>>> Where was CEBit? > > > >>> Sydney. > > > >> And I never got there even though I wanted to, too busy :-( > > > >> The fact that we are busy tells me that CF is alive and well in Oz, or > > >> our > > > segment of it at least but I also am aware that our segment is not > > > everything. > > > >> Fiona and I got a bit of a surprise at WebDU, very few people had heard > > >> of > > > us, very few indeed. It made me realise that you can be going like a train > > > and being very good at what you do but if you don't make a noise > > > occasionally then you fade from people's awareness and a new generation > > > comes along who have never heard of you. You can be the county's most > > > senior > > > cfml developers and hosting firm but it counts for nought if no-one has > > > heard of you. That is why I am suddenly making a lot of noise rather than > > > the once-a-month-or-so squeak that I usually make. We are even considering > > > having our own website! Shock Horror! We've never done that properly > > > before > > > :-) > > > >> So stand by for more noise, cfml is going to be heard again! > > > >> -- > > > >> Yours, > > > >> Kym Kovan > > >> mbcomms.net.au > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "cfaussie" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd > > > ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 450 132 117 > > > web:http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz > > > blog:http://www.bloginblack.de > > > twitter:http://www.twitter.com/agentK > > > > Hands-on Regular Expression training @ webDU 2010 > > >http://bloginblack.de/agentk/workshop-befriending-regular-expressions/ > > > > Hands-on Flash Catalyst and Flex 4 training @ Webinale 2010 > > >http://bloginblack.de/agentk/workshop-rias-with-flash-catalyst-and-fl... > > > -- > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "cfaussie" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "cfaussie" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > <http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en>- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. 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