> > On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:32:43 -0600 Timm Murray <hardburn at runbox.com> > writes: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Saturday 12 January 2002 22:57, you wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:27:01 -0600 Mark J Roberts <mjr at znex.org> > > writes: > > > > Your "my right to [do some relatively unusual thing] is being > > > > trampled by legislation that is necessary to enforce copyright" > > > > argument is stupid, and you know it. > > > > > > Again the Flame War starter strikes with another blast of his > > incredible > > > weapon of doom. <BOOOOM> > > > > Actually, this time MJR is not just trolling, he's being serious. > > He is > > correct, in that my argument doesn't go the whole way into > > supporting the > > idealogy of free speech on the net; it only mentions a practical > > value on the > > cited speech. While I am still more an idealist than pragmatist, I > > learned > > from the Lessig Slashdot interview that there is value in being able > > to put > > arguments in a more practical light, being that most people think > > along > > practical arguments. Therefore, in this case I am using a practical > > argument > > which favors a certain idealogy > > But, he isn't correct in saying that your right to do something > relatively unusual is being trampled. > It used to be unusual to even HAVE > a personal computer.
No, he is quite correct in that. Just because it might be common in the future doesn't make it common right now. > Now people are copying thier favorite music from > CDs to MP3 players that they take along while they jog or sit on a beach > or something. The right to make copies of your own things, when you want > to, is not some totaly alien concept, nor should it be trampled on by > anyone, especialy not the Music or Software Industries. I do agree that > an argument should be practical, and that the reasoning be easily > understood by others. You misunderstand. I do not think much in practical terms. I think in more abstract terms of morality and freedom. I am mearly trying to phrase things in a more practical light because I know the rest of the world doesn't agree with me (which, I suppose, is a very practical idea). > But I don't think software or music copying is in > any way unusual these days. > > > > > - -- > > Fly Windows NT: > > All the passengers carry their seats out onto the tarmac, placing > > the chairs > > in the outline of a plane. They all sit down, flap their arms and > > make jet > > swooshing sounds as if they are flying. > > Heehe!! :) Is this supposed to be a joke about Windows NT's inabillity > to function the way it was intended or something? I know windows OSes > have been notoriously unstable and insecure and a whole bunch of other > stuff too. Any anti-M$ or anti-Windows joke is probably gonna be very > funny to me. :) That's part of my new e-mail .sig. You'll see a new one every time. About half of that database is slamming the X windowing system, and about half of the rest slam Microsoft. The remainder is mostly random quotes about *nix and Computer Sci. I got most of them off gopher://gopher.quux.org. _______________________________________________ Chat mailing list Chat at freenetproject.org http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chat