Hello Monty,

A "Thanks a lot" from Pierre :)

My first mail was too "heavy" for the list with tree files attached. S I'll send three différent mails for each xml file.
Precut.xml ; postinsertion.xml and post-stretch.xml.

Neither him nor I found how to set "Align to frame bounderies" but "Align cursor on frames"

Another "Thanks a lot " from me too :))

Hope helps.

Haldun.

Le 19/01/2013 23:30, Monty Montgomery a écrit :
Hello Haldan,

A canadien video maker, Pierre, from another liste (lprod/France) who had
some issues in subscribing to our liste, security announcement scares him,
There are some ongoing issues with the mailing list; the maintainers
are aware of them.

has a problem of synchronisation in editing for which we, on the other list,
couldn't bring him a solution.
Having watched the video and read your mail, I could not tell if
'Align to frame boundaries' is set.  That's sort of a 'stupid
question' type suggestion, but if it's that's simple... :-)

http://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg03322.html


I have to wonder if the problem is not related to the Cinelerra-CV way to
manage NTSC frame rate of 29.97 frames/second. Which, according to the link
provided, would lead to mismatches related to differences in length of image
and sound tracks, and fragments of sound, remaining after cutting.
well, this would be responsible for an error of about a half sample at
a frame boundary (1/48000th of a second).  I work almost exclusively
in 24000/1001 and don't have alignment issues--- but my workflow is
also somewhat different (I cut across tracks for additional
flexibility, not within a single timeline).

I am more worried about an error in the frame number calculation
caused by the noninteger framerate.  Cinelerra certainly has some
examples of this.

It is as if the cuts I made on the timeline, leaving debris soundtracks
(which would have exceeded the cut point on the video track) and
subsequently contaminating sequences that follow the insertion ...

This problem is very annoying and undermines my editing work, it is also
difficult to understand ... and more to find a solution ...
Hmmm... Would it be possible to send me the EDL (that is the save file
format) for the project pre-cut, post insertion and then again
post-stretch when the problem manifests?  I'd like to see the internal
representation of what Cinelerra thinks it is doing there.  I don't
need the media, just the EDL.

Monty


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