Now I want to say that it is not my intent to start a flame war on this
group, or to belittle anyone.  I am just stating my opinion and would not
mind some alternate opinions.

I can understand how having an MCSE or Cisco certification can be helpful in
landing you a job, but I dont see how the two exactly mesh together.  In any
company of significant size you will be dealing NT servers OR Cisco routers.
The primary responsibilities of an MCSE and CCNP/DP/IE vary by quite a large
margin.  So if you just want to have basic understanding at the CCNA level,
then I could see how it would be good to get both.  However, If you are more
interested in persuing a career in network engineering then focus on network
and telco experience over server experience.  While I do think it it best to
diversify and not overspecialize, I think it is important to determine in
what field you wish to work.  I know this may sound kind of idealistic, but
the last thing I look for in a career decision is salary.  I would rather be
happy and making less money, than having to deal with a work environment
that was not friendly and cooperative.

My 2 cents

-- Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> JohnMail
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 10:34 AM
> To: Brian Lodwick; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCNA worthless?
>
>
> Brian:
>
> I still think that you should stay with NT/2000.  Its installation base is
> far too large to ignore.  CISCO is cool as we all know, but Cisco & MCSE
> will give you much more competitive advantage in the world of work.  Both
> certs over either one!  Also do not forget that Microsoft and CISCO have
> already signed a major collaberation deal.  The people who can integrate
> systems or run interoperable networks are those with skills in both CISCO
> and MCSE spheres.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Lodwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:59 PM
> Subject: RE: CCNA worthless?
>
>
> >
> > I keep telling myself that knowledge and experience will get me
> the job I
> > want as I work here and troubleshoot problems everyday for everyone. I
> want
> > to be configuring routers making crazy cool batch config files,
> analyzing
> > traffic patterns, applying queueing, all the stuff I'm learning in the
> > books. I decided to drop the NT admin idea about a year after
> getting MCSE
> > get into this routing switching world. I feel like I would've
> been working
> a
> > much better job by now in NT administration and making more money, but I
> > really want to do all this crazy Cisco stuff. I hope it pans out in the
> long
> > run.
> > >>>Brian
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "paul doyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: CCNA worthless?
> > >Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:07:04 -0700
> > >
> > >I would have to say it depends on the person.  If you want nothing more
> > >than
> > >a piece of paper certification out of training then thats all you will
> get.
> > >The cert may get you the interview, your knowledge and exerpience will
> get
> > >you the job and pay you want.
> > >
> > >-- Kevin
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > paul doyl
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 8:31 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: CCNA worthless?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello people
> > > > Yesterday a we interveiwed a guy for a job for general network
> hardware
> > > > support. He had a CCNA gained from CCNA boot camp (4 days).
> The thing
> is
> > > > (from what I hear) he had very little idea and couldn't answer
> > > > the simplest
> > > > questions, long blank pause after being asked what a subnet was
> > > > or explain
> > > > what a subnet mask was. Now I'm concerned as I actually had to
> > > > study quite
> > > > hard to get my CCNA. Does anyone have similar tales or stories to
> > > > tell about
> > > > what goes on at these 'boot camps'?
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > Bodey
> > > >
> > > >
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