I agree. In the beginning I thought MCSE was related to internetworking, but
now
I see that MCSE is regarding Windows operating systems. Typically MCSE
knowledge in networking is
superficial compared to Cisco subjects. Of course MCSE has its value.
""Kevin Welch"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
002d01bfc1eb$b993a6c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:002d01bfc1eb$b993a6c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Now I want to say that it is not my intent to start a flame war on this
> group, or to belittle anyone. I am just stating my opinion and would not
> mind some alternate opinions.
>
> I can understand how having an MCSE or Cisco certification can be helpful
in
> landing you a job, but I dont see how the two exactly mesh together. In
any
> company of significant size you will be dealing NT servers OR Cisco
routers.
> The primary responsibilities of an MCSE and CCNP/DP/IE vary by quite a
large
> margin. So if you just want to have basic understanding at the CCNA
level,
> then I could see how it would be good to get both. However, If you are
more
> interested in persuing a career in network engineering then focus on
network
> and telco experience over server experience. While I do think it it best
to
> diversify and not overspecialize, I think it is important to determine in
> what field you wish to work. I know this may sound kind of idealistic,
but
> the last thing I look for in a career decision is salary. I would rather
be
> happy and making less money, than having to deal with a work environment
> that was not friendly and cooperative.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> -- Kevin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > JohnMail
> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 10:34 AM
> > To: Brian Lodwick; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCNA worthless?
> >
> >
> > Brian:
> >
> > I still think that you should stay with NT/2000. Its installation base
is
> > far too large to ignore. CISCO is cool as we all know, but Cisco & MCSE
> > will give you much more competitive advantage in the world of work.
Both
> > certs over either one! Also do not forget that Microsoft and CISCO have
> > already signed a major collaberation deal. The people who can integrate
> > systems or run interoperable networks are those with skills in both
CISCO
> > and MCSE spheres.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Lodwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:59 PM
> > Subject: RE: CCNA worthless?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I keep telling myself that knowledge and experience will get me
> > the job I
> > > want as I work here and troubleshoot problems everyday for everyone. I
> > want
> > > to be configuring routers making crazy cool batch config files,
> > analyzing
> > > traffic patterns, applying queueing, all the stuff I'm learning in the
> > > books. I decided to drop the NT admin idea about a year after
> > getting MCSE
> > > get into this routing switching world. I feel like I would've
> > been working
> > a
> > > much better job by now in NT administration and making more money, but
I
> > > really want to do all this crazy Cisco stuff. I hope it pans out in
the
> > long
> > > run.
> > > >>>Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "paul doyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: CCNA worthless?
> > > >Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:07:04 -0700
> > > >
> > > >I would have to say it depends on the person. If you want nothing
more
> > > >than
> > > >a piece of paper certification out of training then thats all you
will
> > get.
> > > >The cert may get you the interview, your knowledge and exerpience
will
> > get
> > > >you the job and pay you want.
> > > >
> > > >-- Kevin
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > > paul doyl
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 8:31 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: CCNA worthless?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello people
> > > > > Yesterday a we interveiwed a guy for a job for general network
> > hardware
> > > > > support. He had a CCNA gained from CCNA boot camp (4 days).
> > The thing
> > is
> > > > > (from what I hear) he had very little idea and couldn't answer
> > > > > the simplest
> > > > > questions, long blank pause after being asked what a subnet was
> > > > > or explain
> > > > > what a subnet mask was. Now I'm concerned as I actually had to
> > > > > study quite
> > > > > hard to get my CCNA. Does anyone have similar tales or stories to
> > > > > tell about
> > > > > what goes on at these 'boot camps'?
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > Bodey
> > > > >
> > > > >
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