James

You're right. The test you really need hands-on is CIT and FR/S. And much
more hands-on ( I mean tons of time playing with routers/switches ) is
CCIE....


-----Original Message-----
From: James Dezern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 2:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?


I have to disagree with you here Ole.  I took my CCNA without hardly ever
touching a router.  After passing my CCNA I realized that you really didn't
need any hands on router experience.  The test can be passed easily without
any hands on experience.  I will say though that the more hands on you have
the easier it will be.  The CCNA test is designed more to validate that you
know all the concepts well.  I passed my test by just reading Cisco Press
books.  I didn't do great, but a pass is a pass.  The biggest thing to know
on the CCNA exam is the OSI, you need to understand that fully.  Looking at
the scores below shows me that more studying, reading and understanding
needs to be concentrated.  WAN, Security and routing don't really have much
to do with hands on.  I don't know, I just disagree that you need a lot of
hands on to pass a CCNA.  It wasn't designed for that purpose.


my .02

Jamie




----- Original Message -----
From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: Nooo! I failed! what now?


> You did not know enough about the material to pass the test.
>
> I do not know what you have used to study, but here is what I would do:
>
> 1) Read the material until you can answer the study questions 100%
correct.
> 2) Get another study guide (two or more are always better than only one).
> 3) Practise the examples/exercises on a Cisco Router.
> 4) Search for information about topics you do not fully understand.
> 5) Ask this group about topics you do not fully understand.
> 6) Buy a BOSON test exam before you take the real one.
>
> If you are rescheduled, I believe it's for the new CCNA 2.0 (640-507)
since
> the old one had it's last day yesterday. If that's the case, you should
make
> sure to get a study guide for that one.
>
> I can recommend Todd Lammle's new CCNA 2.0 Study Guide together with the
> official ICND book from CiscoPress.
>
> A LOT OF HANDS ON are very important.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now?
>
>
> Hello...
>
> Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the
407...wasn't
> even close..
> I scored 617.
> 71% OSI
> 14   WAN
> 42   IOS
> 60   Net Protocols
> 33   Routing
> 20   Security
> 57   LAN Switch
> 0    Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?)
> 0    Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the
> score?)
>
> Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one
> and a half weeks...thanks a lot
> Al
>
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