The problem is that we are doing VoIP over the link using Cisco FXO and FXS
ports and People are complaining about Voice breaking up, like a bad cell
phone call. I heard it myself, it sounds good but sometimes breaks up.The
routers are running g.729 and use the Wireless link. I have looked into the
Configuration side on the Routers, and have done QoS as well on Routers, but
still these issues. I did a MOS score calculation and it was 4.03 which is "
Acceptable" which means that the call quality should be good, but, it is
not. Then I checked the Ethernet Interface counters, and saw collisions
increasing rapidly, and hence the question.

Thanks,

neil


""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> neil K wrote:
> >
> > The Cisco bridge operates in Half-duplex and that is why
> > half-duplex. The
> > Router is a Cisco 1751 with WIC-1ENET, which is connected to
> > the Wireless
> > Bridge.
> > I checked with the "output Interpreter" on CCO and it said the
> > collisions
> > are more than 0.53 much higher than 0.1 normal rate.
>
> That doesn't sound like a serious problem.
>
> > Here's the output of sh interfaces e 0/0
> >
> > Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up
> >   Hardware is PQUICC Ethernet, address is 0004.dd0d.5502 (bia
> > 0004.dd0d.5502)
> >   Internet address is 172.20.1.2/24
> >   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec,
> >      reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
> >   Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
> >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> >   Half-duplex, 10BaseT
> >   ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
> >   Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
> >   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 3d20h
> >   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output
> > drops: 0
> >   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
> >   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
> >      Conversations  0/5/256 (active/max active/max total)
> >      Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
> >      Available Bandwidth 7200 kilobits/sec
> >   5 minute input rate 53000 bits/sec, 13 packets/sec
> >   5 minute output rate 8000 bits/sec, 13 packets/sec
> >      4528216 packets input, 642790340 bytes, 0 no buffer
> >      Received 176451 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> >      0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
> >      0 input packets with dribble condition detected
> >     6314935 packets output, 279254727 bytes, 0 underruns
> >      59281 output errors, 86548 collisions, 0 interface resets
>
> 86548 divided by 6314935 is about 1%. That's not a big deal. I know Cisco
> says that the threshold is 0.1%, but they just made that number up.
There's
> no exact number where you have to be concerned, and most experts have said
> for years that Cisco's 0.1% is extremely low. They just want to sell you
> switches! :-)
>
> Collisions are a normal part of Ethernet's media access control method.
They
> go up with load as 2 or more stations try to send simultaneously.
>
> You aren't seeing a high load now, but the load statistic is for the last
> five minutes. If you want to try to correlate load with collisions, you
> should clear the counters and keep an eye on the statistics.
>
> The nefarious 59281 output errors are curious. It's supposed to be a total
> of all the other output errors and I would think it would count the
> collisions, but Cisco isn't very clear about this. Why wouldn't they count
> all the collisions? Or maybe the output errors are different from the
> collisions, but I don't know what else they would be. Cisco just says that
> output errors are a cumulation of the other errors and that they may not
add
> up to the others because a frame could have more than one error, which
> doesn't apply to your situation.
>
> >      0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
>
> 0 deferred is a good sign, as are all those other 0 error counts.
>
> I don't think you really have a problem. What gave you concern? I guess
the
> collisions went up. But that would be normal if they went up at the same
> time as both ends of the interface were trying to send a lot of traffic.
>
> By the way, what does the other end say about errors? (i.e. the wireless
> bridge interface, can it show you some statistics?)
>
> What else did Cisco's Output Interpreter have to say about the statistics?
> Can you copy and paste its report? It could help us help you.
>
> Are users complaining? If not, I would say just to use the data you have
> gathered as baseline data, but not as data that causes any troubleshooting
> action.
>
> If users are complaining, then use the troubleshooting method called "swap
> 'til you drop." Change the cable, the interfaces, etc. But my guess is
that
> nothing is wrong. Your interface looks extremely healthy.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> >      0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
> >      0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > neil
> >
> >
> > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> > message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Collisions go up normally with load. What is the load? Could
> > something
> > else
> > > (an attack or trojan horse or just excitement about your
> > terrific content)
> > > have caused the load to go way up?
> > >
> > > Cisco says that no more than 0.1 percent of frames should
> > experience
> > > collisions. How many frames have there been in the time that
> > the
> > collisions
> > > went up? How does that compare to your baseline?
> > >
> > > By the way, why do you have the interfaces set to half
> > duplex? Why don't
> > you
> > > set them them to full since it's a point-to-point link?
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > neil K wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One of my Cisco router's Ethernet interface connected to a
> > > > Cisco Wireless
> > > > Bridges has the interface collisions counter increasing
> > > > rapidly. Over a
> > > > period of 48 hrs the collision counter was 60,000 and the
> > > > output error
> > > > counter was more than 40000. Both the Ethernet interface on
> > the
> > > > router and
> > > > the Cisco Wireless bridge are set to 10/Half-duplex.
> > > > There is nothing in between the bridge and the Router
> > Ethernet,
> > > > connected by
> > > > a cross-over cable. What could be causing this.
> > > >
> > > > Any comments,
> > > >
> > > > neil




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