Okay, I'm responding to my own post.  I found a very similar bug that occurs
on 1700 series routers running 12.0(7).  Would that happen to be what you're
running?

John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Neiberger" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: Ethernet Interface Collisions Incresing rapidl [7:71176]


> This reminds me that recently we had a similar problem with output errors
on
> a FastEthernet interface and the problem was IOS-related.  Different
> situation, though.  That was on a 3660 and it was an autonegotiation bug.
> Still, that's something to check into, as well.
>
> What IOS image is on that router?
>
> John
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Ethernet Interface Collisions Incresing rapidl [7:71176]
>
>
> > John Neiberger wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm concerned about the output errors.  Collisions are not
> > > considered output
> > > errors; they're to be expected with half duplex ethernet.  So,
> > > you do really
> > > have a problem of some variety that needs to be investigated.
> >
> > Thanks for that info, John. I wasn't sure if output errors counted
> > collisions or not.
> >
> > I'm thinking hardware problem on the router maybe? Hardware problem on
the
> > wireless bridge's Ethernet interface? Bad cable, as you mentioned?
> >
> > Time to swap 'til you drop.
> >
> > I found this at Cisco's site:
> >
> > Output errors
> > Number of times that the receiver hardware was unable to hand received
> data
> > to a hardware buffer because the input rate exceeded the receiver's
> ability
> > to handle the data.
> >
> > URL is:
> >
> >
>
ww.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ics/ics25/icstg25/tsether2.htm
> >
> > A hardware problem could cause that, though I still wonder if it might
> just
> > be too much load. High load could explain output errors (assuming that
> > explanation is right, which is a lot to assume :-) and collisions. Of
> > coures, a hardware problem could explain it too.
> >
> >
> > One thing that is suspicious, though, is that deferrals are zero, while
> > collisions aren't. If the network is really just busy with a high load
in
> a
> > healthy way, then there would probably be some deferrals too. I didn't
> want
> > to mention this before because I hadn't found a good explanation for
them,
> > but I found one. Cisco says this:
> >
> > The deferred counter counts the number of times the interface has tried
to
> > send a frame, but found the carrier busy at the first attempt (Carrier
> > Sense). This does not constitute a problem, and is part of normal
Ethernet
> > operation.
> >
> >
> > URL for that is:
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/63/eth_collisions.html
> >
> > Why would a network have lots of collisions but no cases where a packet
> had
> > to be deferred? This may be more evidence of a hardware problem, rather
> than
> > a loading problem.
> >
> > It could also be evidence of the other side actually using full duplex
> > despite its manual configuration. It sends whenever it wants, including
> > while the other side is sending.
> >
> >
> > Are you sure you can't just use full duplex? It would sure be cleaner!
> Even
> > a healthy shared Ethernet is not a good medium for voice due to its
> inherent
> > variable delay.
> >
> > Priscilla




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