This seems to have opened a large debate. I have to say my feelings about it 
are mixed. One the one hand, a person should not be allowed to misrepresent 
this certification. Cisco should be able to verify quickly and with accuracy 
whether or not he is in fact a CCIE.
On the other hand, the originator of this thread struck me as a little 
intense. In truth, I am glad that I am not working in any environment with 
such a person. If I was I would maintain a big distance as there seems to be 
a bit of a witch hunt flavor to his tone. Whatever good intent there may 
have been initially seems lost in his enthusiasm. And it makes me wonder 
what the deal is with him.

In honesty, I have periods where I somethines feel ike a fraud myself.
Although I work very hard to learn and to be competent, people always are 
asking for things that fall outside my immediate areas of study and focus. I 
think some of the greatest people in their fields in the
world have to sometimes feel like frauds. I do sometimes as well. But it is 
magnified by the unrealistic expectations that people place on you when they 
have decided that you are an expert and should know all of the answers off 
the top of your head.


>From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: ick daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE
>Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:16:51 -0500 (CDT)
>
>On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, ick daniels wrote:
>
> > How do you know he is not certified. By sending a mail
> > to Cisco. Pleaseee. I just tried it by sending a card
> > of someone who is a CCIE and i got a reply that he
> > does not exist. If you doubt his credentials be a man
>
>Ick, do you mind sharing the name of the CCIE (or number)?  Because if
>what you say is true, then this is very bad.  Cisco is very good about
>tracking CCIE's and making it easy to verify them.  If you are a CCIE and
>go for a job, its very possible that the employer may pre-screen you by
>verifying your authenticity........this is more than just skill at stake
>here, for example a cisco partner needs CCIE for its qualification for say
>gold status.
>
>If cisco is falsly invalidating CCIE's its important it is
>addressed.  When you email the address to verify a CCIE, its not like it
>goes to a black hole.  It gets routed to someone who takes care of
>it.......or should.
>
>brian
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------
>Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Network Administrator
>ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881)
>
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