he! he!  he!

you forgot the FLAME THROWER.   oops! perhaps you are having a ccie moment
and forgot something.


Makeeda


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Kane
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 8:05 AM
> To: Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
>
>
> But will this satisfy the evident "bloodlust" out there ? The pillowcase
> with the doorknobs is a reasonable start , but I can't help thinking that
> will only have the masses howling for more... Perhaps adding special
> castration pliers , the old bamboo up the fingernails and an iron
> maiden or
> two will suffice . Then some kind of court type situation would probably
> help , I know a guy selling cheap Kangaroos if that's any help. If the
> passions still haven't abated at that point , going to Salem and checking
> out the witches is an option ,
>
> Rgrds
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:34 AM
> Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE
>
>
> >
> > Gee,
> >
> > Maybe a few of us should get together and meet him in the
> parking lot one
> > night. Who wants to carry the pillowcase with the doorknobs in it???
> >
> > >From: "Mark  Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Mark  Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Raul F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE
> > >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:35:36 -0400
> > >
> > >Raul-
> > >
> > > I brought down the local checkpoint firewall by pinging an
> large number
> of
> > >hosts simultaneously. I asked him (the bogus ccie) why he thought that
> > >would
> > >bring down the firewall? His reply? "The fact that I pinged
> more than 50
> > >hosts rapid fire caused the NT and Solaris servers on the LAN to start
> > >flooding the wire with excessive SMB traffic, and since the
> firewall saw
> > >that much SMB traffic it thought I was an intruder and shut down the
> > >interface I was attached to." Real reason: The old Firewall
> one software
> > >had
> > >a bug that misallocated memory for packet queues on internal
> interfaces.
> My
> > >excessive pinging caused the queue to overflow and the software itself
> > >crashed. An update fixed the problem. At least that was what the data
> > >center
> > >manager told me.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Raul F. Fernandez
> > >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:57 AM
> > >To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco
> > >Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> > >
> > >
> > >Dear folks,
> > >
> > >I have to agree with Tim on this one. It may have been
> possible that the
> > >person at this site just did not pay enough attention to the question
> posed
> > >or that he may not known the answer. I do not know thew nature of the
> > >question. Perhaps Mark could be kind  enough to let us know what the
> > >question was or were. Now depending on the nature and difficulty of the
> > >question it may justify his not being able to answer it. If he is lying
> he
> > >should be disciplined because he lied and because he has taken for
> granted
> > >all the blood sweat and tears that goes into getting a CCIE. I
> think too
> > >many folks get caught up in the CCIE and forget all the real hard work
> that
> > >goes into it. Basically, if he does not know the answer to a perplexing
> > >question he should at least be able to outline a
> troubleshooting plan to
> > >find it.
> > >
> > >Raul
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Tim O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cisco
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:51 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> > >
> > >
> > > >Just because a guy can config a router it does not make him
> a god. Lets
> > >face
> > > >it guys, there is nobody out there that knows everything about
> > >everything,
> > > >and if there is someone that thinks they do, I guarantee there is
> someone
> > > >else out there that knows more than they do. Obviously if this guy is
> > >lying
> > > >about his CCIE he should be exposed, and after reported it is up to
> Cisco
> > >to
> > > >deal with as they see fit.
> > > >
> > > >.02
> > > >
> > > >Tim
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Sam LI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Mark Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:41 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Well, even some real one behave like this, i come across a few in the
> the
> > > >past
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:55 PM
> > > >Subject: Possible phony CCIE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Greetings-
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I recently worked on a project with a fellow who claimed to be a
> CCIE.
> > >He
> > > >> even gave me his card with the CCIE logo on it. At least I think it
> is
> > >the
> > > >> CCIE logo. It is a router symbol surrounded with laurels
> and has the
> > >words
> > > >> Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer circling it as well. After
> asking
> > > >this
> > > >> person a few questions, I became suspicious of his
> credentials due to
> > >his
> > > >> apparent lack of knowledge of the fundamentals. (I never asked for
> his
> > > >CCIE
> > > >> number because I attempted verification only after I left the
> account).
> > >I
> > > >> faxed a copy of the business card he gave me (homemade BTW) to
> someone
> > >in
> > > >> the CCIE program at Cisco.  She told me the card is bogus and that
> she
> > > >would
> > > >> send the card to the Cisco lawyers. That was three months ago and
> this
> > > >> person is STILL working on site there. What do you people think I
> > >should
> > > >do
> > > >> now? Send e-mail to the persons that are contracting him
> there? He is
> > > >> charging a very high bill rate. The people he is working don't have
> > >enough
> > > >> knowledge to confirm his credentials. Should I let this go? Isn't
> part
> > >of
> > > >my
> > > >> cert agreement with Cisco to protect the logo? I feel that Cisco
> isn't
> > > >doing
> > > >> anything to protect us here.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mark Cohen
> > > >> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> > > >>
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