This is very true. However, apart from the delivery, other routing switch
vendor really did a good job. I am a Foundry Bigiron user and I am always
satisfy with it's performance. Not mentioning the switching power and
wirespeed ACL, it can be rebooted the box in 6 sec. EG. Last time I did a
flash upgrade then reboot, it tooks 6 sec, then OSPF established in 10 sec,
and no user notice that.... to them, it is just 10-12 icmp packet lost.
Impressive?
At 01:43 ¤U¤È 2000/12/11 -0800, Magnus Thorne wrote:
>Does anyone have any problems getting Cisco products? I've heard from a few
>friends that Cisco is having trouble delivering their equipment, so people
>are turning to Extreme, Juniper, and Foundary.
>
>-Mag
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:33 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
>
>
>I'd just like to point out one fact that most enterprises do give a lot of
>thought before making purchase decisions - Extreme, Foundry, Juniper, et al
>DO NOT have end-to-end solutions. Cisco does.
>
>The former also do not have a trained pool of network engineers to recommend
>and implement their products, whereas you'll find plenty of Cisco-trained,
>Cisco-experienced network engineers, designers & support professionals.
>Cisco IOS offers one consistent interface & CLI throughout most of its
>product line. Cisco also offers an impressive range of Network Management
>products that we're yet to see from other vendors.
>
>It's an endless debate - but not all enterprise networks require the
>performance & capabilities of a Juniper or a Foundry.
>
>Having said that, let me also add that as things stand, by no means is Cisco
>technologically the most superior throughout the length & breadth of its
>entire prouduct line. Juniper, Extreme, Foundry and others do have their
>niches that they fill quite effectively, and pose challanges to Cisco in
>those markets.
>
>And as someone correctly pointed out, the basic networking knowledge is
>still required even to implement other vendors' products. I doubt the CCIE
>will lose its value any time soon, but we just might see a deluge of CCNAs &
>CCNPs bred on the ExamCrams, Transcenders & Bosons.
>
>(I'm yet to determine how many of the people on this newsgroup have/have not
>used Boson tests... :-)
>
>Bharat Suneja
>
>
>"Mohamed Heeba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>91B200CBBEC3D111992A00805F31E6CB8807A3@MINAMAIL">news:91B200CBBEC3D111992A00805F31E6CB8807A3@MINAMAIL...
> > so wat do u think the value of Cisco Certificates in the market , how long
> > time this value is going to retain its bright ??
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Walden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:34 AM
> > > To: Mohamed Heeba
> > > Subject: Re: eXtreme and Cisco
> > >
> > >
> > > They won't die, but they are loosing a ton of market share. Juniper is
> > > really kicking them hard on the router side (7xxx-12xxx). Foundry and
> > > Extreme are kicking them hard on the enterprise side (5xxx-6xxx). At
>some
> > > point its all going to add up and be very painful for Cisco. That is the
> > > price of being the big boy in town. They are slow and strapped down with
>a
> > > huge existing customer based and bloated buggy IOS where the other
> > > manufacturers don't have that problem.
> > >
> > > andy
> > >
> > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Mohamed Heeba wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi guys
> > > > just coming now from extreme presentation .looks like they have much
> > > more
> > > > stronger products than cisco (in giga swtiches of course )....do u
>think
> > > > guys that Cisco is going to die because of small focused companies
>like
> > > > extreme and jinper ??? if anyone feel interested ..we would like to
> > > discuss
> > > > this
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mohamed
> > > >
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