It just depends on the application.
We had a need to upgrade our workcloset switches.
We needed 72 10/100 ports, gigabit capibility, dual power.
Cat 5000, 3 24 port 10/100 blades, gigabit, Supervisor, and dual power,
came to like $65000 or some crazy number like that. total switch fabric?
3Gbps
Foundry FastIron II was about $15k list, $12k street price. Total switch
fabric 16Gbps, with a packet forwarding speed that stomped on the cisco.
The switch's OS is almost identical to IOS as well.
But for every application, I consider all companies. We have extreme
switches deployed with some of our Content Delivery Networks.
Brian
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Desai, Inamul wrote:
>
> We have gone comparing application can Extreme and Cisco
> deliver. We met both Cisco reps and extreme and we have
> good relation with local Cisco office cos we have been
> Cisco customer for years. I know Cisco would be more flexible
> than any other products but delivery date is turning Cisco
> down.
>
> We have cat5 and with supervisor I, so we want to upgrade
> cat5 to faster backplane switch with VLAN, intervlan routing,
> spanning and probably multicasting.
>
> Extreme does support all standard protocols and feature with faster
> backplane. I would personally go to Cisco router but there is
> no huge appealing feature of Cisco which I can pass to my manager
> comparing cost and upgrades..
> Thanks
> Eddie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie Parra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 4:07 PM
> To: Desai, Inamul; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
>
>
> Inamul,
>
> What do you need the switch to do? I am not sure what your application
> is, but most enterprises come NO WHERE close to either products switching
> ability. I say this not because I work for Cisco, but our switch does a TON
> of things the extreme switch doesn't. Ask yourself what features you need
> now and also look at the roadmaps (if extreme even offers one) for future
> feature.
>
> -Eddie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Desai, Inamul
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 2:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
>
>
>
> My company just about to choose Cisco 6509 or EXtreme switch.
> We even brought extreme switch for evolution, Cisco could not
> deliver test box so we had to go their lab.
>
> Anyway, they both have pros and cons and extreme is way faster
> than Cisco with better pricing. With Cisco, even if want to buy it,
> we will have to wait till April 2001 as Cisco can not fill in orders
> or they do not have any in stock. Cisco is definitely loosing market
> share on switching side. I would prefer Cisco cos I am working on
> CCNP but wish Cisco could deliver box yesterday like extreme.
>
>
> Inamul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Ezerski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:38 AM
> To: 'Bharat Suneja'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
>
>
> You bring up very good points. I would like to add another. I work for an
> ISP and there is a lot to be said for a homogenous network. I am familiar
> with IOS and as the majority of our network devices are Cisco, I have an
> easier time learning new things or figuring out others. Also, it is nice to
> be able to go to one source to get answers. I am not necessarily the
> biggest fan of Cisco, but going the Cisco route does have major benefits.
>
> FYI, I have used Boson Tests. I find them to be excellent tools for putting
> you into the mindset of the exam.
>
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
>
>
> I'd just like to point out one fact that most enterprises do give a lot of
> thought before making purchase decisions - Extreme, Foundry, Juniper, et al
> DO NOT have end-to-end solutions. Cisco does.
>
> The former also do not have a trained pool of network engineers to recommend
> and implement their products, whereas you'll find plenty of Cisco-trained,
> Cisco-experienced network engineers, designers & support professionals.
> Cisco IOS offers one consistent interface & CLI throughout most of its
> product line. Cisco also offers an impressive range of Network Management
> products that we're yet to see from other vendors.
>
> It's an endless debate - but not all enterprise networks require the
> performance & capabilities of a Juniper or a Foundry.
>
> Having said that, let me also add that as things stand, by no means is Cisco
> technologically the most superior throughout the length & breadth of its
> entire prouduct line. Juniper, Extreme, Foundry and others do have their
> niches that they fill quite effectively, and pose challanges to Cisco in
> those markets.
>
> And as someone correctly pointed out, the basic networking knowledge is
> still required even to implement other vendors' products. I doubt the CCIE
> will lose its value any time soon, but we just might see a deluge of CCNAs &
> CCNPs bred on the ExamCrams, Transcenders & Bosons.
>
> (I'm yet to determine how many of the people on this newsgroup have/have not
> used Boson tests... :-)
>
> Bharat Suneja
>
>
> "Mohamed Heeba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 91B200CBBEC3D111992A00805F31E6CB8807A3@MINAMAIL">news:91B200CBBEC3D111992A00805F31E6CB8807A3@MINAMAIL...
> > so wat do u think the value of Cisco Certificates in the market , how long
> > time this value is going to retain its bright ??
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Walden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:34 AM
> > > To: Mohamed Heeba
> > > Subject: Re: eXtreme and Cisco
> > >
> > >
> > > They won't die, but they are loosing a ton of market share. Juniper is
> > > really kicking them hard on the router side (7xxx-12xxx). Foundry and
> > > Extreme are kicking them hard on the enterprise side (5xxx-6xxx). At
> some
> > > point its all going to add up and be very painful for Cisco. That is the
> > > price of being the big boy in town. They are slow and strapped down with
> a
> > > huge existing customer based and bloated buggy IOS where the other
> > > manufacturers don't have that problem.
> > >
> > > andy
> > >
> > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Mohamed Heeba wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi guys
> > > > just coming now from extreme presentation .looks like they have much
> > > more
> > > > stronger products than cisco (in giga swtiches of course )....do u
> think
> > > > guys that Cisco is going to die because of small focused companies
> like
> > > > extreme and jinper ??? if anyone feel interested ..we would like to
> > > discuss
> > > > this
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mohamed
> > > >
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