Redback is another impressive company... I have been researching them a lot
lately. They are forming well...
-Eddie
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bharat Suneja
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 1:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
Couldn't agree with you more. I do happen to work for a company that's
mostly non-Cisco - and heavy on every other platform you can think of -
Redback, Extreme, Juniper, et al.... and I'd pretty much love to get my
hands wet with all those platforms.. particularly Juniper & Redback.
Bharat Suneja
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eddie Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bharat Suneja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
> I will like to add something to this also. I was the director of
technology
> for a startup .dot-com before I worked at Cisco. I couldn't find ANYONE
to
> hire for over 6 weeks who knew Juniper, Extreme, or Foundry. This isn't a
> slam, this is a fact. There are more Cisco savvy people out there, not to
> forget about the thousands, including yourselves, who are trying to learn
> Internetworking technologies on Cisco products. You also have to consider
> things like this when you make a purchasing decision. One other thing I
> think most people will agree on is that TAC is HANDS DOWN the best support
> group available 24-7-365. Sometimes technology isn't the deciding factor.
>
> -Eddie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Bharat Suneja
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 12:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
>
>
> I'd just like to point out one fact that most enterprises do give a lot of
> thought before making purchase decisions - Extreme, Foundry, Juniper, et
al
> DO NOT have end-to-end solutions. Cisco does.
>
> The former also do not have a trained pool of network engineers to
recommend
> and implement their products, whereas you'll find plenty of Cisco-trained,
> Cisco-experienced network engineers, designers & support professionals.
> Cisco IOS offers one consistent interface & CLI throughout most of its
> product line. Cisco also offers an impressive range of Network Management
> products that we're yet to see from other vendors.
>
> It's an endless debate - but not all enterprise networks require the
> performance & capabilities of a Juniper or a Foundry.
>
> Having said that, let me also add that as things stand, by no means is
Cisco
> technologically the most superior throughout the length & breadth of its
> entire prouduct line. Juniper, Extreme, Foundry and others do have their
> niches that they fill quite effectively, and pose challanges to Cisco in
> those markets.
>
> And as someone correctly pointed out, the basic networking knowledge is
> still required even to implement other vendors' products. I doubt the CCIE
> will lose its value any time soon, but we just might see a deluge of CCNAs
&
> CCNPs bred on the ExamCrams, Transcenders & Bosons.
>
> (I'm yet to determine how many of the people on this newsgroup have/have
not
> used Boson tests... :-)
>
> Bharat Suneja
>
>
> "Mohamed Heeba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 91B200CBBEC3D111992A00805F31E6CB8807A3@MINAMAIL">news:91B200CBBEC3D111992A00805F31E6CB8807A3@MINAMAIL...
> > so wat do u think the value of Cisco Certificates in the market , how
long
> > time this value is going to retain its bright ??
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Walden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:34 AM
> > > To: Mohamed Heeba
> > > Subject: Re: eXtreme and Cisco
> > >
> > >
> > > They won't die, but they are loosing a ton of market share. Juniper is
> > > really kicking them hard on the router side (7xxx-12xxx). Foundry and
> > > Extreme are kicking them hard on the enterprise side (5xxx-6xxx). At
> some
> > > point its all going to add up and be very painful for Cisco. That is
the
> > > price of being the big boy in town. They are slow and strapped down
with
> a
> > > huge existing customer based and bloated buggy IOS where the other
> > > manufacturers don't have that problem.
> > >
> > > andy
> > >
> > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Mohamed Heeba wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi guys
> > > > just coming now from extreme presentation .looks like they have much
> > > more
> > > > stronger products than cisco (in giga swtiches of course )....do u
> think
> > > > guys that Cisco is going to die because of small focused companies
> like
> > > > extreme and jinper ??? if anyone feel interested ..we would like to
> > > discuss
> > > > this
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mohamed
> > > >
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