Unfortunately, anyone that is not getting hands on experience will quickly
forget pretty much everything they learned during their studies -in a matter
of weeks.  This fact quickly turns CCNP's back into CCNA's!

Best of luck to you.

----- Original Message -----
From: jeongwoo park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Groupstudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:55 PM
Subject: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster


> Hi group members!!
> I am the original poster of this thread.
> First of all, I appreciate your encouragements,
> concerns and even criticizing point. I received more
> replies than I expected.
>
> There were some people who made a point on removing my
> ccnp cert from my resume.
> It was not only thoughtful suggestion, but also scary
> suggestion, because I felt that removing it from my
> resume was like 7 months of ccnp prep going down the
> drain all of a sudden.
> However, I made up my mind not remove it.
> My intension of listing ccnp on my resume was to show
> how much interest I have on networking. I believe that
> there is clear difference between ccna without
> experience and ccnp without experience. If I were
> employer, I would hire ccnp without experience because
> there is obviously difference between these two guys
> in terms of the amount of technical knowledge and
> potential performance that he or she might make.
> As some members mentioned, lots of people consider
> their careers from IT industry because of money. I
> agree with them not only I am partly one of them, but
> also money can be one of strong motivation in
> advancing their living condition. But money doesn't
> give me enough motivation as my interest in networking
> does. I didn't even consider CCNP. I was going to
> start to look for a job after I got MCSE and CCNA
> certifications.
> But I couldn't stop my interest in knowing more on
> network knowledge.
>
> There might be some people who would say, " none of
> these guys would be hired."
> Well, the biggest irony that I have is that who is
> going to start his or her career in IT industry if
> everyone is looking for only experienced engineer.
> That is why I am looking for entry level of job. I
> wouldn't be able to perform in the beginning as much
> as years of experienced CCNP would do. But I am sure
> that I could learn things faster than most of
> entry-level job applicants.
> If nobody offers me a job, I would go for CCIE without
> any corporation experience. I would buy network
> devices, and take ccie lab classes. I wonder if there
> is anyone who made ccie without any corporation
> experience. I wish there were. If not, I will be the
> first one who becomes ccie without experience. I am
> not talking about home-network or training school
> network experience. I am talking about the experience
> that can be obtained as a network engineer.
> I know it would be harder to become ccie without real
> world experience, but I believe that lots of members
> who showed their concern would be with me.
> When I become CCIE, I will put nothing but CCIE, and
> see if anyone gives me job offer.
> I wonder if people who emphasizes on only experience
> still wouldn't hire me.
>
> For the people who are already out there and working
> for company without any certification, I respect them
> because they might have had harder time on getting a
> job than I do.
>
> Since I posted my message, I had some job interviews.
> Well, I will see how it will go.
> Once again, Thanks you for encouragement and advices.
> I will definitely let you know if I got hired.
>
>
> jeongwoo
>
>
>
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