I would say that is a broad generalization and partially depends on if you
studued or crammed. Normally a person must repeat something at least 3
times to commit it to long term memory, exam cramming plays off of the fact
that you will remember most of what you learn in your short term memory...
This is how most boot camps work and why they are successful. If you spend
a good 30+ days studying the same subject matter and do it in a fashion that
combimes common learning methods, your long term retention of the subject
matter will be much better. For the most part this is retention of facts
and concepts, this provides a solid foundation and understanding but is not
the same as real world experience. I am a firm believer that some things
cannot be taught in books, and those are the qualities to look for in a
perspective employee.
I will be the first to admit that I do not know everything. Saying that
puts me a better position than those who think they do know it all... at
least I can swallow my pride and look something up or ask for assitance.
Now its my turn to make a sweeping generalization: There are two types of
people who persue certification. Those who persue it to better themselves
and those who persue it better their career. To me the knowledge I obtain
in the path to my certification is more important than the cert itself.
-- Kevin
"Everything works in theory. Someday I hope to move there."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Groupstudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster
> Unfortunately, anyone that is not getting hands on experience will quickly
> forget pretty much everything they learned during their studies -in a
matter
> of weeks. This fact quickly turns CCNP's back into CCNA's!
>
> Best of luck to you.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jeongwoo park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Groupstudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:55 PM
> Subject: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster
>
>
> > Hi group members!!
> > I am the original poster of this thread.
> > First of all, I appreciate your encouragements,
> > concerns and even criticizing point. I received more
> > replies than I expected.
> >
> > There were some people who made a point on removing my
> > ccnp cert from my resume.
> > It was not only thoughtful suggestion, but also scary
> > suggestion, because I felt that removing it from my
> > resume was like 7 months of ccnp prep going down the
> > drain all of a sudden.
> > However, I made up my mind not remove it.
> > My intension of listing ccnp on my resume was to show
> > how much interest I have on networking. I believe that
> > there is clear difference between ccna without
> > experience and ccnp without experience. If I were
> > employer, I would hire ccnp without experience because
> > there is obviously difference between these two guys
> > in terms of the amount of technical knowledge and
> > potential performance that he or she might make.
> > As some members mentioned, lots of people consider
> > their careers from IT industry because of money. I
> > agree with them not only I am partly one of them, but
> > also money can be one of strong motivation in
> > advancing their living condition. But money doesn't
> > give me enough motivation as my interest in networking
> > does. I didn't even consider CCNP. I was going to
> > start to look for a job after I got MCSE and CCNA
> > certifications.
> > But I couldn't stop my interest in knowing more on
> > network knowledge.
> >
> > There might be some people who would say, " none of
> > these guys would be hired."
> > Well, the biggest irony that I have is that who is
> > going to start his or her career in IT industry if
> > everyone is looking for only experienced engineer.
> > That is why I am looking for entry level of job. I
> > wouldn't be able to perform in the beginning as much
> > as years of experienced CCNP would do. But I am sure
> > that I could learn things faster than most of
> > entry-level job applicants.
> > If nobody offers me a job, I would go for CCIE without
> > any corporation experience. I would buy network
> > devices, and take ccie lab classes. I wonder if there
> > is anyone who made ccie without any corporation
> > experience. I wish there were. If not, I will be the
> > first one who becomes ccie without experience. I am
> > not talking about home-network or training school
> > network experience. I am talking about the experience
> > that can be obtained as a network engineer.
> > I know it would be harder to become ccie without real
> > world experience, but I believe that lots of members
> > who showed their concern would be with me.
> > When I become CCIE, I will put nothing but CCIE, and
> > see if anyone gives me job offer.
> > I wonder if people who emphasizes on only experience
> > still wouldn't hire me.
> >
> > For the people who are already out there and working
> > for company without any certification, I respect them
> > because they might have had harder time on getting a
> > job than I do.
> >
> > Since I posted my message, I had some job interviews.
> > Well, I will see how it will go.
> > Once again, Thanks you for encouragement and advices.
> > I will definitely let you know if I got hired.
> >
> >
> > jeongwoo
> >
> >
> >
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