Riding on the coat tails of Howard's comments, there are also other players
out there like Lucent(home of the Nexibit N64000 Terabit Switch Router and
the Ascend product lines), Avici, Charlette's Web, Nortel etc., that offer
carrier grade solutions.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers
A few comments, in which I think I am being reasonably objective.
On this list, people periodically speak of the joys of Cisco, because
it offers end-to-end solutions. That is a very enterprise-oriented
view.
Much more than in the enterprise space, carriers/ISPs tend to _want_
multivendor solutions. There are several reasons. They are
protected, to some extent, from bugs in the hardware or software of a
specific implementation. Next, if they have several qualified
vendors, they can get some protection against delivery backlogs from
one of them. The larger provider also can play competitive discount
and service games with the vendors.
In this market, Juniper has the advantage of having built a product
as carrier-oriented from the ground up. There's a lot of bloat in IOS
due to the perception or need for legacy, usually
enterprise-oriented, features. Independent reviewers, such as the
Tolly group, have indicated that Junipers may have as good or better
throughput than equivalent Cisco products.
No one vendor owns the entire carrier router space. Cisco's
advertising that ninety-some percent of the traffic in the internet
goes over the equipment of one company doesn't necessarily mean the
core bandwidth, but that the traffic at some point hits an enterprise
or carrier Cisco device. In any case, I prefer the variant of this
slogan I saw in someone's .sig (hoping I don't hit a filter)
"ninety-some percent of the p*rn*graphy in the Internet goes through
the equipment of one company." Said comment could be equally true of
Cisco's routers or Nortel's optics.
Juniper and Cisco both make fine products.
>John,
>
>I went to a BGP study session and the instructor said that major ISP use
>Juniper router to run BGP. Hope this help. PEACE
>
>
> Raheem
>
>
>>From: John Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: John Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: alternative to Cisco routers
>>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:09:59 -0500
>>
>>Anyone who have experience with Juniper routers would like to comment on
>>its performance (M20 and 40
>>series) in comparison to Cisco GSR 12000s. My company is in the process
>>of evaluating Juniper products
>>because we are not very happy with Cisco performance. Our router
>>crashes almost every week which is
>>unacceptable and Cisco didn't provide much help other than giving us
> >buggy IOS code.
>>
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