Robert,
            Where have you been..?  Haven't seen you in the group for
sometime.  I was also wondering about Bob Envry of VA/DC/MD  CPAW fame
haven't heard from him in a while as well.

Anyway, good to see that you're still around..(our famous cable guy)....:-)

Nigel..

----- Original Message -----
From: robert lowery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Eric ding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: strange question about dce setting?


> Have you tried to use a special crossover cable... that is db60 both ends
but wired with
> one end dce and the other dte.  To make it work you add the command
clockrate 64000 (for
> example) on the interface that has the dce end.  If you try to add
clockrate on the dte
> end ..it will not allow you to do so.  If you do a show controler serial
(port no) it
> will tell you what type of end is attached.
>
> ps I sell these specials cables on ebay and direct.
>
> bob...aka barronvonpuppy
>
>
> Eric ding wrote:
>
> >   two 2500 routers,routerA and routerB, back-to-back connection .both of
> > them use  serial 0,when i set routerA's serial for dce,i got the output
> > below:
> > routerA(config-if)#dce-terminal-timing-enable
> > %not allowed on dte interface
> > but if i use the command below:
> > routerA(config-if)#no dce-terminal-timing-enable
> > routerA(config-if)#dce-terminal-timing-enable
> > it does work.
> > i was confused about it!
> > any suggestion will be appreciated!
> >
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