As to an earlier question, do PMs make as much? Yes, if you have many years
of experience, technical to the hands on level, and hold a PM certification
such as PMI you can earn a good living. Some CCIEs may have the PM
experience from previous employment or consulting gigs. It is up to the
individual. Any technical person with PM experience are well sought after. I
maintain both and some gigs are both, some just hands on technical and some
just PM. jJust my 2 cents..
JS CCNP/DP soon IE(hopefully) CNE, Oracle Master, CNX, PMG, MI and EIEIO...
""EA Louie"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> It's kinda funny how this whole certification process evolved. In the
> "olden days", the CCIE was a certification that was geared towards the
TAC,
> as a way of enhancing Cisco's already-renowned technical support. It was
> offered to the external world as a way for those packet jockeys to be
> acknowledged as experts in the internetworking field.
>
> The CCNA/NP/DA/DP certs were geared mostly toward the channel, to enhance
> and acknowledge their technical expertise. When they looked at the certs
> carefully though, Cisco decided to make CCIE certification a requirement
for
> their premier channel partners, and the number of CCIE's and amount of
sales
> determined their premier partner status.
>
> As far as CCIE's being "project managers", most of them balk at it because
> in truth, they're technical experts, not project experts. The quote from
> the article is the opinion of the authors, and not necessarily the
position
> that Cisco is taking for the CCIE.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Howard C. Berkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?
>
>
> > Does it occur to anyone else that it's strange to put CCIE's in
> > "project management" when the CCIE program doesn't, in the slightest,
> > test for project management skills?
> >
> >
> > >just a correction, it wasn't a newspaper but an article on ZDNet:
> > >
> > >http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2693233-1,00.html
> > >
> > >which in part states:
> > >
> > >Quote
> > >
> > >Not to be left out, Cisco Systems is reworking its partner program so
> that
> > >all partners are required to specialize. The company also will require
> > >customer-satisfaction ratings for its partners, a step taken by
Microsoft
> > >earlier this year for its top-tier Gold partners.
> > >
> > >In return, Cisco will share its best practices and tools with its
> partners
> > >and drop the CCIE requirements from one per $10 million sales to one
per
> $40
> > >million in sales. That will push CCIEs into a project management role,
> and
> > >put more responsibility on the shoulders of associate, professional and
> > >expert certified Cisco partners.
> > >
> > >Unquote.
> > >
> > >Kevin Wigle
> >
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