Hi Mike;

I find your comment very interesting, most positions state how
many years of experience before applying. The only exceptions
that I have seen with certification positions, is in the programing field.
It's not the certification being a problem - it's the resources for
people to obtain experience.

My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs for people to work in when
studying for their certification that are affordable or that it can be obtain.
People need to be involved with study groups and they should do volunteer
work or try working as a contractor.

This problem became obvious when Cisco & Microsoft started programs in
San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming certified. Why did they do
that!!!!

What amazes me is how these people, that you are seeing, have passed the test????

my 03 cents worth.

respectfully,
adele

Mike Davis wrote:

> I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
>
> I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
> So up front I am not against certs.
>
> I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
> Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
> do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for
> network folks, I have the opportunity to interview
> these people to verify technical experience. I have
> had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
> could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
>
> This scares me because I am also working hard toward
> my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is
> showing up more that these people are becoming "paper"
> Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
>
> I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as
> difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do
> not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE
> title to be one among thousands who also have it.
>
> That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP
> and not become another MCSE program.
>
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