Vincent - I'm not sure...he had the 2600 installation manual in front of him
(Appendix on rommon). He didn't know the rommon variables were
case-sensitive, I guess, and didn't have his tftp server set up
correctly...he probably won't forget this experience, though.
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Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Did he know how to collect information from cisco website?
> If he did not know how to did it, I just wonder.
>
>
>
> ""EA Louie"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
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> > some of the certs are like getting a "paper diploma" (which is what I
> got...
> > heheheh) So, if they are going to take the risk and study for the cert
on
> > the hopes that they can get a job using the cert as leverage, more power
> to
> > them!
> >
> > By virtue of the testing mechanism, the CCNA/CCNP/CCDA/CCDP will be
> > attainable by studying. I work with one now, who has both a CCNP and
> CCDP,
> > but couldn't reload an erased flash on a 2600 series router... go
figure.
> I
> > was very tempted to ask, "What are those certs really for?", but I just
> > smiled and helped him reload the flash from a tftp server using rommon.
> (By
> > the way, the variables in rommon on a 2600 are case sensitive :-)
> >
> > When I first started working in industry after earning my degree, my
boss
> > put me together with a technician who had no degree, but tons of
> experience.
> > The tech rolled his eyes when he met me and said, "Great...I gotta train
> > ANOTHER engineer". What he didn't count on was that I'd learn how to do
> his
> > job, not to his skill level (he had 10+ years in the industry), but good
> > enough so that he'd trust me to do the work if he wasn't around. I kind
> of
> > feel like him, now... a non-certified "packet jockey" that has to train
> > these certified, "paper trained", network "engineers".
> >
> > I interviewed a guy the other day and asked him, "Why do you want to get
> > Cisco certified?". He said, because he wanted to be a network engineer
> and
> > learn how to read/interpret Cisco configurations. When I asked him "Why
> do
> > you want to be a network engineer?", his reason was pretty weak (but I'd
> > guess he'd have said "the money" if I pressed him).
> >
> > The havoc I could wreak on these guys with policy routing,
access-groups,
> > NAT, and route maps... heheheheh...<evil grin>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
> > Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
> >
> >
> > > I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
> > >
> > > I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
> > > So up front I am not against certs.
> > >
> > > I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
> > > Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
> > > do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for
> > > network folks, I have the opportunity to interview
> > > these people to verify technical experience. I have
> > > had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
> > > could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
> > >
> > >
> > > This scares me because I am also working hard toward
> > > my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is
> > > showing up more that these people are becoming "paper"
> > > Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
> > >
> > > I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as
> > > difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do
> > > not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE
> > > title to be one among thousands who also have it.
> > >
> > > That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> > > try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP
> > > and not become another MCSE program.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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