some of the certs are like getting a "paper diploma" (which is what I got...
heheheh) So, if they are going to take the risk and study for the cert on
the hopes that they can get a job using the cert as leverage, more power to
them!
By virtue of the testing mechanism, the CCNA/CCNP/CCDA/CCDP will be
attainable by studying. I work with one now, who has both a CCNP and CCDP,
but couldn't reload an erased flash on a 2600 series router... go figure. I
was very tempted to ask, "What are those certs really for?", but I just
smiled and helped him reload the flash from a tftp server using rommon. (By
the way, the variables in rommon on a 2600 are case sensitive :-)
When I first started working in industry after earning my degree, my boss
put me together with a technician who had no degree, but tons of experience.
The tech rolled his eyes when he met me and said, "Great...I gotta train
ANOTHER engineer". What he didn't count on was that I'd learn how to do his
job, not to his skill level (he had 10+ years in the industry), but good
enough so that he'd trust me to do the work if he wasn't around. I kind of
feel like him, now... a non-certified "packet jockey" that has to train
these certified, "paper trained", network "engineers".
I interviewed a guy the other day and asked him, "Why do you want to get
Cisco certified?". He said, because he wanted to be a network engineer and
learn how to read/interpret Cisco configurations. When I asked him "Why do
you want to be a network engineer?", his reason was pretty weak (but I'd
guess he'd have said "the money" if I pressed him).
The havoc I could wreak on these guys with policy routing, access-groups,
NAT, and route maps... heheheheh...<evil grin>
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
> I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
>
> I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
> So up front I am not against certs.
>
> I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
> Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
> do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for
> network folks, I have the opportunity to interview
> these people to verify technical experience. I have
> had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
> could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
>
>
> This scares me because I am also working hard toward
> my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is
> showing up more that these people are becoming "paper"
> Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
>
> I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as
> difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do
> not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE
> title to be one among thousands who also have it.
>
> That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP
> and not become another MCSE program.
>
>
>
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