The last thing this business needs in the possibility of a recession is a
company like Cisco a Market Leader vacillating on which way any single thing
goes. Changes in CID like CCNP/CCDP and CCs can only confuse situations.
How do you induce stability in a market that needs certain stability at this
time. I don't think it's this way! Besides will companies pay in a period
of recession for another round of qualifications, I think not! Cisco pull
this one around and look at the markets!
Karl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: CID BETA
> I thank Priscilla for her candor on this topic. I for
> one was pretty livid with the exam, and I wrote over
> seven pages of comments to the Cisco team both through
> the exam comments feature and off-line. Specifically I
> was disappointed that the questions were poorly
> crafted, afforded few solid answers, and many were
> flat-out wrong.
>
> It is further disappointing that Cisco has failed to
> take advantage of this forum and others like it to
> improve the quality of their product from a technical
> perspective, much like one would expect a better level
> set with enterprise and service provider customers to
> develop the program further.
>
>
> --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe they laid off the people working on it. Just
> > kidding. Seriously, the
> > Cisco training department has always worked at about
> > 1/100,000,000 the
> > speed of Internet time.
> >
> > Analyzing the results of a beta test is
> > time-consuming, though, and
> > sometimes there are arguments on the meaning of the
> > results. The test
> > writers must go through and weed out questions that
> > everyone got right,
> > even the obvious newbies. (Newbies and experts are
> > defined by the test
> > results, so it's an iterative process.) They must
> > eliminate questions that
> > nobody got right. They must eliminate questions that
> > the newbies got right
> > but the experts got wrong. Then they have to rescore
> > the beta results.
> >
> > If they eliminated too many questions, they have to
> > add new ones. This must
> > be done with care since the new questions won't go
> > through the same beta
> > test. Then, they must make sure the course matches
> > the test.
> >
> > Still, I agree that it's egregious that it has taken
> > 14 weeks.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 02:22 PM 3/25/01, F.G.J. Ruiz-Alaniz wrote:
> > >Anyone know who we can call at Cisco? Speaking to
> > Prometric is a
> > >waste of time because they blame Cisco (this from
> > past experience with
> > >them).
> > >
> > >Not to spread rumors, but I think this is related
> > to them not having
> > >published the updated CID 4.0 class yet. I can't
> > find any mention of
> > >it anywhere. Beta exams from other companies are
> > not this bad, I've
> > >never even had one from Novell, Microsoft, or
> > CompTIA take more than 8
> > >weeks for me to get my report in the mail.
> > >
> > >Well, I'll continue waiting...
> > >
> > >On 25 Mar 2001 09:56:29 -0500,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("GNOME") wrote:
> > >
> > > >14 weeks and still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Tim Noonan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> Hi. Has anyone got the results from the CID
> > beta test yet?
> > > >> I have taken several beta test and this is the
> > longest I have had to wait
> > > >> for the results.
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Tim
> > > >> Ps. Please cc me with any reply becuase I don't
> > have access to the mailing
> > > >> list right now.
> > > >>
> >
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