I got off the list temporarily because I am on vacation, but I must comment
once more. Vacillating on test results is normal and healthy and has been
going on forever. It has nothing to do with the economy.
I would suspect that one thing that's holding up the test is the seven
pages of comments from Robert and probably other people. This is a good
thing. Declaring the test final and past the beta stage when it's not
really ready would be a bad thing.
Priscilla
At 11:27 PM 3/25/01, hal9001 wrote:
>The last thing this business needs in the possibility of a recession is a
>company like Cisco a Market Leader vacillating on which way any single thing
>goes. Changes in CID like CCNP/CCDP and CCs can only confuse situations.
>How do you induce stability in a market that needs certain stability at this
>time. I don't think it's this way! Besides will companies pay in a period
>of recession for another round of qualifications, I think not! Cisco pull
>this one around and look at the markets!
>
>Karl
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:52 PM
>Subject: Re: CID BETA
>
>
> > I thank Priscilla for her candor on this topic. I for
> > one was pretty livid with the exam, and I wrote over
> > seven pages of comments to the Cisco team both through
> > the exam comments feature and off-line. Specifically I
> > was disappointed that the questions were poorly
> > crafted, afforded few solid answers, and many were
> > flat-out wrong.
> >
> > It is further disappointing that Cisco has failed to
> > take advantage of this forum and others like it to
> > improve the quality of their product from a technical
> > perspective, much like one would expect a better level
> > set with enterprise and service provider customers to
> > develop the program further.
> >
> >
> > --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Maybe they laid off the people working on it. Just
> > > kidding. Seriously, the
> > > Cisco training department has always worked at about
> > > 1/100,000,000 the
> > > speed of Internet time.
> > >
> > > Analyzing the results of a beta test is
> > > time-consuming, though, and
> > > sometimes there are arguments on the meaning of the
> > > results. The test
> > > writers must go through and weed out questions that
> > > everyone got right,
> > > even the obvious newbies. (Newbies and experts are
> > > defined by the test
> > > results, so it's an iterative process.) They must
> > > eliminate questions that
> > > nobody got right. They must eliminate questions that
> > > the newbies got right
> > > but the experts got wrong. Then they have to rescore
> > > the beta results.
> > >
> > > If they eliminated too many questions, they have to
> > > add new ones. This must
> > > be done with care since the new questions won't go
> > > through the same beta
> > > test. Then, they must make sure the course matches
> > > the test.
> > >
> > > Still, I agree that it's egregious that it has taken
> > > 14 weeks.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 02:22 PM 3/25/01, F.G.J. Ruiz-Alaniz wrote:
> > > >Anyone know who we can call at Cisco? Speaking to
> > > Prometric is a
> > > >waste of time because they blame Cisco (this from
> > > past experience with
> > > >them).
> > > >
> > > >Not to spread rumors, but I think this is related
> > > to them not having
> > > >published the updated CID 4.0 class yet. I can't
> > > find any mention of
> > > >it anywhere. Beta exams from other companies are
> > > not this bad, I've
> > > >never even had one from Novell, Microsoft, or
> > > CompTIA take more than 8
> > > >weeks for me to get my report in the mail.
> > > >
> > > >Well, I'll continue waiting...
> > > >
> > > >On 25 Mar 2001 09:56:29 -0500,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("GNOME") wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >14 weeks and still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"Tim Noonan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >> Hi. Has anyone got the results from the CID
> > > beta test yet?
> > > > >> I have taken several beta test and this is the
> > > longest I have had to wait
> > > > >> for the results.
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> Tim
> > > > >> Ps. Please cc me with any reply becuase I don't
> > > have access to the mailing
> > > > >> list right now.
> > > > >>
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