They seem a little high for what I paid for my routers, it just goes toshow
you have to shop around.  I spent a bit of time searching but found a good
deal
Eugene

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> You prices for each router seem $100 less than they are selling out there.
> Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Here's a suggestion.. maybe an MGS for FR switch and maybe as a 2513
aswell.
>
> Albert
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Fred Danson
> > Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2001 10:20
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCIE prep - review lab inventory and budget [7:3908]
> >
> >
> > If your $4000 budget isn't going to move, you always have other options.
> > Another factor here is- how long you are willing to wait? Every once in
a
> > while you can find someone to buy direct from. They might not know the
> > street prices or miight not care how much they get for their equipment.
> > Either way, you win.
> >
> > If I had $4000 to create a Lab from scratch, I would probably shoot for
a
> > setup like this:
> >
> > $2509- $800-$900
> > $2523- $800-$900
> > $2502- $400-$450
> > $2501- $500-$550
> > $2503- $550-$650
> > $2504- $425-$525
> > hub&mau- $30-$40
> >
> > Total- $3505 - $4015
> >
> > Use the rest to buy cables, and mabye another 2501/2502. Take
> > your time when
> > purchasing from ebay. You can sometimes find very good deals!
> > Also, look for
> > deals that include cables & high dram/flash. They don't normally
> > influence
> > the price much. You might even be able to sell back some of the flash to
> > save yourself some money.
> >
> > When you're on a limited budget like $4000, your strategy is
> > quantity, not
> > quality. If you spend half the cash to buy a 2901, you wouldn't
> > have enough
> > cash left to get a decent (IGP/BGP, DLSW, ect.) lab going. You
> > also should
> > look to create a lab that will scale for you in the future. Even
> > though you
> > don't have an ISDN simulator now, you have the routers available
> > in case you
> > decide to purchase one in the future.
> >
> > I think the next step for a lab like this, money permitting,
> > would be to buy
> > an ISDN simulator. They are a little cheaper than a 2901, and
> > they let you
> > do a lot more.
> >
> > I wouldn't even consider buying a switch. Once you have the
> > money, go ahead
> > and get a 2901/5000 (the prices for these 2 don't differ much).
> > For now, you
> > can get a hub or 2. If you need VLANS, buy more hubs.
> >
> > Add a 2513 and you could do most of the fatkid labs!
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "EA Louie"
> > >To: "Fred Danson"
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE prep - review lab inventory and budget [7:3908]
> > >Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:27:55 -0700
> > >
> > >daaaaang, that's almost 2x my budget... grrrr... I guess I'd better
look
> > >for
> > >better deals - maybe go to work for an 'almost-ready-to-fail'
dot-com???
> > >:-)
> > >
> > >thanks Fred, that was a great response.
> > >
> > >Eric
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Fred Danson"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 4:01 PM
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE prep - review lab inventory and budget [7:3908]
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have a similar setup, here's what mine cost me (without shipping)-
> > > >
> > > > 2501- $550
> > > > 2502- $404
> > > > 2503- $630
> > > > 2504- $540
> > > > 2511- $900
> > > > 2523- $900
> > > > Cat1800 Token Switch- $300
> > > > 4000 w/2 ethernet, 1 token, 2 serial, 4 BRI- $1000
> > > > ISDN Simulator- $1800
> > > >
> > > > Total- $7024 (without shipping)
> > > >
> > > > I bought all of my equipment from ebay. Where are you
> > planning on buying
> > > > yours from? Also, why would you need 4 hubs when you have a
> > switch? You
> > > > could easily make the switch act like a number of hubs by creating
> > >VLANS.
> > > >
> > > > If you have any questions, feel free to email me.
> > > >
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > > >From: "EA Louie"
> > > > >Reply-To: "EA Louie"
> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Subject: CCIE prep - review lab inventory and budget [7:3908]
> > > > >Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:09:22 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm getting ready (or in Texas, I'd be "a-fixin to git
> > ready") to build
> > >a
> > > > >CCIE
> > > > >lab prep setup, both for personal use and for the use of my local
> > > > >studygroup.
> > > > >Here's what I've identified - if I'm missing anything, please let
me
> > >know.
> > > > >
> > > > >Here's the strategy I'm going to take for the equipment:
> > > > >
> > > > >1-2511 --- console server (w/ octal cable)
> > > > >1-2503 --- ISDN
> > > > >1-2504 --- ISDN
> > > > >1-2514 - dual eth
> > > > >1-2515 - dual t/r
> > > > >1-4000 w/NP-4T and NP-1E or NP-2E, and a BRI interface or two if
they
> > >exist
> > > > >(F/R switch)
> > > > >1-2924-XL
> > > > >teltone isdn simulator
> > > > >3 token ring MAUs
> > > > >3 token ring media filters
> > > > >4 AUI-10BT transceivers
> > > > >4 Ethernet hubs
> > > > >6 60-pin DTE-DCE cables
> > > > >a bunch of Cat5 cables
> > > > >rack
> > > > >rackmount kits (or shelves)
> > > > >and a partridge in a pear tree  ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm budgeting about $4000 and if an additional 2501 falls into my
> > > > >possession
> > > > >by accident,
> > > > >so be it  ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >That should provide most of what's needed and enough of the
interface
> > >types
> > > > >required to
> > > > >practice configurations (especially desktop protocols and
iBGP/eBGP).
> > >I'd
> > > > >love a Cat5k too, but I can't do it on this budget.
> > > > >
> > > > >What do you think about this parts list?  Pretty good for a start?
> > >Think
> > > > >it's
> > > > >achievable with $4000?
> > > > >
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