I don't believe this is accurate.  Certainly Cisco employees are expected to
reach the same score as everyone else on the lab and pre qualification for
CCIE.  10 or 15% would mean that you'd need 90-95% to pass the lab which
would make it pretty tough.  I know that instructors (CCSI's) have to pass
the career certification exams with an elevated rate but hadn't heard that
practise extended elsewhere.

Pete


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On 5/10/2001 at 5:58 PM Roger Sohn wrote:

>I think most people don't understand that if you do work for Cisco,
>employees are required to score 10 or 15% higher than the regular passing
>score.  And that also goes for the CCIE Lab exam as well as the other CCxx
>tests.  
>
>Cisco also only allows 2 free lab attempts, and anything after that you
>have
>to pay for the entire amount that everyone else pays.  
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:26 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Congrats [7:4044]
>
>
>Gee that's kinda like working at Microsoft as a Windowz architech and
>getting your MCSE! How hard can that be? Send me the CCIE's work resume out
>side of the lab of Cisco, then i'll be impressed..See if you can manage
>Riverstone and Nortel equipment as well.....Well first you gotta survive
>the
>Cisco layoffs. Bummer...heh..
>
>Q
>
>"Frank Kim"  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I'm proud of you.  Go Vietnamese!  I'm taking my lab this November
>> also.  I hope I will be the second Vietnamese person who will send out
>> such good news to the group.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, 10 May 2001, DUNG H. LE wrote:
>>
>> > May 7-8, 2001 - RTP Lab facility
>> >
>> > This was attempt 2. I changed my study habits from attempt 1, and
>therefore
>> > testing technique, for my attempt 2  (you perform like you
>> > practice..right?).  It paid off. The change was to monotonously ping
>every
>> > interface IP / IPX address from every router. I made a list of the
>> addresses
>> > and ran through all of them from every router. I believe this lack of
>> > attention to detail is what did me in on attempt one.
>> >
>> > Time management was key.  If I didn't know the config off the top of my
>> > head, I skipped it.  This allowed me to complete the entire day 1
>portion 3
>> > hours early.  I had 4 areas that I needed to think about, so I saved
>them
>> > for last.  I methodically approached each of the 4 areas, knocked out
>each
>> > requirement, and had 1 hour left to do the testing above.  My strategy
>was
>> > that no matter what, I would take the last hour to test thoroughly, I
>just
>> > happened to get my 4 items done.  Day 2 was the same way...although
>only
>3
>> > hours for the first part, I still had 45 minutes to test it all.
>> >
>> > Troubleshooting was by far the most nerve-racking experience.  I had a
>> > "trouble ticket" list and was told to find as many problems as I could
>and
>> > document/fix them (one liners).  Unexpectedly I had to troubleshoot a
>> > different network than the one I had spent a day and a half
>configuring.
>3
>> > hours was the time limit to learn a new topology, IP scheme, protocol
>> > intent, and then fix as much as possible.  I don't feel like I was
>ready
>> for
>> > this, and must have just kept calm enough to manage it.
>> >
>> > The waiting is a nerve killer.  You wait before the lab starts about an
>> hour
>> > for everything and everyone to get ready.  You wait all night long for
>> > status on day 1's score.  You wait after day 2 build out...1.5 hours
>for
>> > me.... to find out if you made it to troubleshooting.  Then you wait
>while
>> > they add up the points and spit a number out of the computer.... or
>not.
>> > Howard ???? was the best!!! Comic relief goes a long way to ease my
>stress,
>> > and he delivered. I was very comfortable in the RTP environment.
>> >
>> > Study material used / frequency:
>> > Caslow 2nd edition - read it cover to cover once.
>> > Ccbootcamp labs - practiced daily (almost and minus weekends) for 4
>> > months.... 4-6 hours per day on a rack of equipment that was very
>similar
>> to
>> > the real thing.  I was very comfortable with what was required of me
>for
>> day
>> > 1 and 2 build out.  In retrospect I would have practiced a bit more on
>> > troubleshooting.  I was not comfortable with this at all and could have
>> used
>> > some familiarity with strategy and tactic on this part.
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