Re: Cisco Certifications still worth anything? [7:10599]

[Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA.]

Remember that the mark agreement used the word 'May' so if I decide to put
say CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP+voice, CCNP+security, etc I have not gone against
the agreement, cos I rest on the strenght of the word 'MAY' It is true that
these look redundant but many HR would prefer that to someone that just put
CCNP, CCDP. The guy who did this exams want a return in terms of good jobs,
etc, so putting all these will fetch him the desired job, no harm.

There was a trend in this group where someone said he attended a job fair
with his friend, he has his CCNP and his friend have CCNA. To follow the
rules he only put CCNP in his resume. Many employers were in favour of his
friend's CCNA cos, according to him, they said 'They are not doing CCNP
stuffs' but have a lot to do with CCNA in their company. Out there many HR
knows just two cisco certifications ie CCNA and CCIE. Until Cisco or whoever
completely educate all the HRs and many others, it is better to play safe.

Regards.
Oletu.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis H 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications still worth anything? [7:10599]


> Well said!
>
> Dennis
>
>
>  wrote in message
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> > The Cisco Career Certifications Agreement (Mark usage guidelines) states
> > (among a lot of other things)...
> > "You may only use the mark for the highest level of certification you
have
> > received".
> > BUT, before you all decide that this means you should put CCIE only, the
> > "career certifications" they are talking about are CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and
> > CCDP.  Not CCIE.
> > Don't forget that the CCIE has been around a lot longer than the CCNP/DP
> > etc.  The CCNP/DP are not prerequisites for the CCIE, and although there
> is
> > an awful lot of overlap in the material, the CCIE isn't really just an
> > extra step up (particularly from the CCDP).
> > My opinion would be that you should NOT put "CCNA, CCNP" or "CCDA,
CCDP" -
> > that happens to be against the marks agreement, and anyway it's
redundant
> > (except perhaps for HR scanning purposes).
> > But "CCIE, CCNP, CCDP"?  Sure.  They are different certs, and one
doesn't
> > imply the other.
> > JMcL
> > ---------------------- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 04/07/2001
> > 08:59 am ---------------------------
> >
> >
> > "Kevin Wigle" @groupstudy.com on 04/07/2001
> > 12:05:30 am
> >
> > Please respond to "Kevin Wigle"
> >
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> > Subject:  Re: Cisco Certifications still worth anything? [7:10599]
> >
> >
> > With the death (or extended delay) of CCIE Design, I think that the CCDP
> is
> > sufficiently different that it can/should be used alongside of CCIE.
> >
> > CCNP on the otherhand flows directly into CCIE R&S.
> >
> > I've had this discussion before in the NOS world, MCSE/MCP - CBE/CBS -
> > CNE/CNA.
> >
> > and the greatest reason for using both is that HR often don't know how
> > certs
> > are achieved or their order.  Therefore, to allow HR people to catch the
> > keyword they're looking for, both junior/senior certs are often listed.
> >
> > Now, on a business card - I only use the senior initials, but on a
> resume -
> > that's HR stuff again.
> >
> > On an email list where supposedly everybody is clued into the cert
tracks
> > (imagine a name like groupstudy) then I think I would also only use the
> > senior initials.
> >
> > But personal taste takes it in the end.  Some people could presume that
> > their posts on this list as a legitimate form of "advertising" their
> > abilities - again a HR thing.................
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dennis H"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: Cisco Certifications still worth anything? [7:10599]
> >
> >
> > > I guess it's just a matter of taste...  Since CCIE is supposed the end
> > all
> > > know all cert in Cisco world... it's seems superfluous to add any
lower
> > > level certs such as CCNP/DP and it might be construed to indicate an
> > > infactuation with certs and letters after ones name... why not add
CCNA
> > to
> > > the end as well, or is that one not good enough...  Compare it to when
> > > someone achieves a PhD... are they going to put BS after their name as
> > > well... of course not... it's implied!  Such is the case with CCIE...
> > I'd
> > > just like to see the CCIE recognition kept at the highest level and I
> > think
> > > putting CCNP after your CCIE designation is kind of silly...  This is
> the
> > > first time I saw that.  All the CCIE's I know wouldn't dream of doing
> > that!
> > >
> > > BTW, I believe you're mistaken about the recertification... According
to
> > > Cisco's website you need to recertify every 3 years unless you achieve
a
> > > higher level certification during that time...
> > >
> > > Sorry if it seems like I'm bashing you... that's not what I'm trying
to
> > > do...  Cheers and good luck!
> > >
> > > Dennis
> >
> > very large snip to shorten up individual posts




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