The reason that both serial interfaces stay up is because the routers
are talking LMI their repective switches no problemo.  On a link between
the US and Asia thaere are most likely other switches and network
devices so if you did a sh frame pvc you would see your PVC is either
inactive or deleted.

  Dave

Jim Bond wrote:
> 
> Nice try, but no, keepalive is not disabled. By the
> way, sometimes, interface will go "down"...
> 
> --- Ole Drews Jensen  wrote:
> > I don't know if this is the problem, but if you have
> > keepalives disabled
> > with the 'no keepalive' command, the link will stay
> > up even though the PVC
> > goes down.
> >
> > A 'show conf' from both routers would help.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> > Ole
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Bond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:56 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: frame relay question [7:20609]
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We have AT&T frame line between US and Asia.
> > Sometimes
> > frame line is not available (therefore ISDN backup
> > kicked in). But the weird thing is on both side
> > frame
> > routers, show serial interface says up. I couldn't
> > ping between the 2 frame routers. Worse, on the
> > syslog
> > server, the link down was not captured 'cause the
> > serial were still "up".
> >
> > What can I do to collect some fact and data so I can
> > yell at AT&T?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Jim
> >
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