Welcome.

I use the db60-db60 in my home lab to connect my 2500's. Check on ebay, they
go for about 20 bucks.

Check out the following link for pinouts, you can make your own but the pins
are darn small (take my word on it)

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/knowledge/pinouts/

Watch the wrap, if any.

with the v.35 cables, one end would be dce and the other dte.  Just be
carefull which end is which. 

db60------V.35 | V.35 ---- db60
|             |           |             |
DTE     DCE     DCE       DTE

If that's what your refereing to then I don't think it'll work due to both
far ends being DTE's.

Lemme know if you have any more questions. I had to discover this stuff out
the hardware way so maybe I can advise a little more.

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:23 AM
> To:   Ouellette, Tim
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
> 
> Thanks Tim, that was great!
> 
> So, a special db60-db60 cable can be used for back-to-back connections,
> and
> will work as long as one router is set to be the DCE and provide a
> clockrate.  Does this cable have any special pinouts or anything?  Is
> there
> a diagram somewhere?  Did a search on google, no luck tho!
> 
> Also, would a setup with two V.35 cables (one male, one female) connected
> together between two routers work in the same way?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Sam.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ouellette, Tim" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 PM
> Subject: RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
> 
> 
> > Sam,
> >
> > "the whole DTE/DCE" thing is related directly to where the clocking
> comes
> > from. In a "typical" wan, the clocking to your router's serial port
> comes
> > from an external CSU/DSU that your carrier may provide. Therefor, the
> > carried is the DCE and your router is the DTE.  In a home environment,
> if
> > you have your routers connected via a db60->db60 cable, one of those
> routers
> > needs to supply the clock rate.  Check your cable because one end is
> > probably labelled as DCE and the other DTE. If it's not, trying using
> the
> > "show controller serial x" and that should tell you the type that is
> plugged
> > into it. On the DCE side of that connected link, you need to use the
> "clock
> > rate" command to supply clocking to the other side.
> >
> > I don't think there is a "DTE cable" I believe it's more of you order
> the
> > proper pin size (db60 on 2500's and db60 or db50 on the 4000's) for each
> > side.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:54 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Could someone kindly explain the whole DTE / DCE thing in relation to
> > > setting
> > > up a home lab and using routers back to back?
> > >
> > > I believe that DTE is male and DCE female, but what are the other
> > > differences?
> > >
> > > When connecting a router to a CSU/DSU, would you always order a DTE
> cable?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help anyone can provide!




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