Hey, why not look into Cyclade's Terminal Server?  It runs linux 
which means you get ssh v2, plus they say you can get the 16 port version 
for around $2200 bucks.  Compared to the $4500, seems like you are WAY 
ahead of the game.  They say they will have a web interface soon and at 
that point, you already have official support for the product, which 
greatly diminishes the "learning curve" of doing the initial install and 
getting the right parts.

http://www.cyclades.com/products/stdalone/ts1_2000.htm##D

         I guess you can say it is risky since no one on the list ever 
tried it.  However, in all seriousness, this is not exactly a complicated 
piece of hardware.  So how can they possibly go wrong?  They even have 
routers in their diagram!  Can't possibly be Nortel routers, they are 
almost pointless to console into.  ;)

         Anyway, just email them and tell them your woes.  At half the 
price, PLUS official support, I really think you are ahead of the 
game.  Without official support, I would call it a toss up.

At 04:59 AM 11/22/01 -0500, Gaz wrote:
>Thanks for all the suggestions. Linux does seem to win for most cases.
>I do have the dilemma that this a solution that may be used at many sites
>and ideally needs to be a small, neat, rack mounted affair.
>Once we get into the realms of buying 1U servers for the linux as well as
>2511, it's getting to the point where the difference in money to step to a
>2610 is not that great. Or at least probably not great enough to compensate
>for the difference in neatness/engineering required to install etc
>
>Thanks for the info everyone.
>
>Gaz
>
>
>""Kent Hundley""  wrote in message
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> > One could install an extra ethernet nic in the linux box and then just
use
>a
> > cross-over cable to connect directly to the 2501.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kent
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Patrick Ramsey
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:58 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Terminal Server with SSH - Not cheap are they? [7:27038]
> >
> >
> > seems to be the consensus...  : )
> >
> > Although if you telnet from the linux box then you are just as insecure
as
> > you originally were...
> >
> > -Patrick
> >
> > >>> "Berry Mobley"  11/21/01 01:53PM >>>
> > Why not just build a linux box with ssh support and telnet from there to
> > the term server?  Another step - but probably more secure...and a lot
> > cheaper than another router.
> >
> > Berry
> >
> > At 01:04 PM 11/21/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >I currently use a 2511 RJ Terminal Server on a site with dial up access
> > >through a modem. Ten pieces of Cisco equipment are then configured using
> > >reverse telnet to their consoles.
> > >Someone's thrown a spanner in the works. We now need to use something
>such
> > >as SSH to the Terminal Server.
> > >The 2500 doesn't support it. The nearest I could think of was a 2610
with
> > an
> > >NM16A (16 port Async) module. Unfortunately to run a decent version of
>code
> > >with DES (for SSH support) this needs a DRAM and Flash upgrade.
> > >There isn't as far as I can find, a 16 port RJ45 Asynchronous module
> > (closer
> > >replacement for the 2511RJ), so we need two octal cables.
> > >
> > >Total Price around #4500 as opposed to around #1800 for the 2511RJ.
> > >2511's always seemed a bit steep for this job, but using a 2610 for it
> > seems
> > >to be even more so, even though the 2610 itself is only #1100. I think
>all
> > >this still only gives me SSH version 1.
> > >
> > >Does anybody have any ideas for suitable replacements. Space is a
>concern,
> > >but I am thinking about putting a 1U server in there to do the same job
>if
> > I
> > >can source a 16 port serial card that fits, and I'm also looking at
>whether
> > >Shiva are still in the market. All ideas accepted gladly, but this does
> > have
> > >to get past a security board. I don't want full solutions, just asking
>for
> > >brief ideas.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Gaz
-Carroll Kong




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