Well, I just want to let everyone to be aware that even though Cyclade Terminal Server is an excellent product (I like it best with SSH version 2 support and also support for SSH key authentication, which Cisco also lacks. The only drawback about this product (abeilt a minor one) is that it doesn't support TACACS. Cyclades only supports RADIUS at this time. I think they are going to support TACACS very soon. I have to say that this product really blows Cisco 2600 and 3600 Terminal Servers away. It is really an awesome product. For those Cisco centrix users, give this product a chance, it will blow your mind. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaz" To: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Terminal Server with SSH - Not cheap are they? [7:27038]
> Carroll you are a star. > > I'm ordering one now to give it a try. > I'll let the group know how things go. I would have thought Terminal Servers > are quite heavily used for labs etc. > My currency symbol was changed to a hash, but the prices I quoted were in > British Pounds believe it or not. And they're already about 20% below list, > so the saving may well be hefty if it works. > I may feel a little guilty for turning away from Cisco on this occasion, but > not for long at that price. Cisco don't seem to be continuing much support > for this kind of device. No direct 2600 range replacement for the 2511 > (afaik). > > > Thank-you again, > > Gaz > > ""Carroll Kong"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hey, why not look into Cyclade's Terminal Server? It runs linux > > which means you get ssh v2, plus they say you can get the 16 port version > > for around $2200 bucks. Compared to the $4500, seems like you are WAY > > ahead of the game. They say they will have a web interface soon and at > > that point, you already have official support for the product, which > > greatly diminishes the "learning curve" of doing the initial install and > > getting the right parts. > > > > http://www.cyclades.com/products/stdalone/ts1_2000.htm##D > > > > I guess you can say it is risky since no one on the list ever > > tried it. However, in all seriousness, this is not exactly a complicated > > piece of hardware. So how can they possibly go wrong? They even have > > routers in their diagram! Can't possibly be Nortel routers, they are > > almost pointless to console into. ;) > > > > Anyway, just email them and tell them your woes. At half the > > price, PLUS official support, I really think you are ahead of the > > game. Without official support, I would call it a toss up. > > > > At 04:59 AM 11/22/01 -0500, Gaz wrote: > > >Thanks for all the suggestions. Linux does seem to win for most cases. > > >I do have the dilemma that this a solution that may be used at many sites > > >and ideally needs to be a small, neat, rack mounted affair. > > >Once we get into the realms of buying 1U servers for the linux as well as > > >2511, it's getting to the point where the difference in money to step to > a > > >2610 is not that great. Or at least probably not great enough to > compensate > > >for the difference in neatness/engineering required to install etc > > > > > >Thanks for the info everyone. > > > > > >Gaz > > > > > > > > >""Kent Hundley"" wrote in message > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > One could install an extra ethernet nic in the linux box and then just > > use > > >a > > > > cross-over cable to connect directly to the 2501. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > > Patrick Ramsey > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:58 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: Terminal Server with SSH - Not cheap are they? [7:27038] > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be the consensus... : ) > > > > > > > > Although if you telnet from the linux box then you are just as > insecure > > as > > > > you originally were... > > > > > > > > -Patrick > > > > > > > > >>> "Berry Mobley" 11/21/01 01:53PM >>> > > > > Why not just build a linux box with ssh support and telnet from there > to > > > > the term server? Another step - but probably more secure...and a lot > > > > cheaper than another router. > > > > > > > > Berry > > > > > > > > At 01:04 PM 11/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Hi all, > > > > > > > > > >I currently use a 2511 RJ Terminal Server on a site with dial up > access > > > > >through a modem. Ten pieces of Cisco equipment are then configured > using > > > > >reverse telnet to their consoles. > > > > >Someone's thrown a spanner in the works. We now need to use something > > >such > > > > >as SSH to the Terminal Server. > > > > >The 2500 doesn't support it. The nearest I could think of was a 2610 > > with > > > > an > > > > >NM16A (16 port Async) module. Unfortunately to run a decent version > of > > >code > > > > >with DES (for SSH support) this needs a DRAM and Flash upgrade. > > > > >There isn't as far as I can find, a 16 port RJ45 Asynchronous module > > > > (closer > > > > >replacement for the 2511RJ), so we need two octal cables. > > > > > > > > > >Total Price around #4500 as opposed to around #1800 for the 2511RJ. > > > > >2511's always seemed a bit steep for this job, but using a 2610 for > it > > > > seems > > > > >to be even more so, even though the 2610 itself is only #1100. I > think > > >all > > > > >this still only gives me SSH version 1. > > > > > > > > > >Does anybody have any ideas for suitable replacements. Space is a > > >concern, > > > > >but I am thinking about putting a 1U server in there to do the same > job > > >if > > > > I > > > > >can source a 16 port serial card that fits, and I'm also looking at > > >whether > > > > >Shiva are still in the market. All ideas accepted gladly, but this > does > > > > have > > > > >to get past a security board. I don't want full solutions, just > asking > > >for > > > > >brief ideas. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >Gaz > > -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=27143&t=27038 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
