It's for testing purposes. There are lots of testing situations when you want an interface to act like it's up even if it's not sending any packets.
This isn't a case where we can do our normal thing of treating people who ask questions like they are dumb butts. Sorry, long day. Check this out! charlotte#config t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. charlotte(config)#int s0 charlotte(config-if)#no keep charlotte(config-if)#loopback charlotte(config-if)#end charlotte# %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console charlotte# charlotte# charlotte#show int s0 Serial0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is MCI Serial Internet address is 192.168.40.2 255.255.255.0 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255 Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback set, keepalive not set Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 29 Last input 0:00:06, output 0:00:05, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters never Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 69 packets input, 3077 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 2 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants 3 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 3 abort 74 packets output, 3708 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 6 interface resets, 0 restarts 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 9 carrier transitions Of course, I doubt that my lab of MGS routers resembles anything in the real world! ;-) Priscilla At 06:32 PM 11/29/01, Stefan Dozier wrote: >Now that's a really good question! > >Stefan > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >John Neiberger >Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:45 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: serial up/up w/o cable [7:27604] > > >A cable-less serial interface? It's called a loopback interface. ;-) >Which makes me wonder why the original poster was attempting this in the >first place. > >Is there some functionality that he/she desires to get from a serial >interface that is up/up without a cable that he/she couldn't get from a >loopback interface? > > >>> "MADMAN" 11/29/01 12:39:00 PM >>> >To be honest I have never tried such a thing but I thought it made >sense that if I enabled loopback the interface should come up. I now >tried reenabling keepalives and the interface is still up but it shows >itself to be in the looped state: > >C7507MIX#sh int ser 4/1/3 >Serial4/1/3 is up, line protocol is up (looped) > > Which makes sense as it's seeing it's own keepalive packets come back >via the loop. > > I can't do this on a 2500 either but I can't tell you why, any Cisco >hardware engineers out there?? > > oh well it's pretty much acedemic anyway, cableless serial >interfaces >are about as useful as a three legged horse. > > Dave > >Stefan Dozier wrote: > > > > Dave.... > > > > If there's no cable installed in Serial4/1/3, obviously I (atleast) > > need to broaden my level of research on why you do can accomplish > > that feat on 7500 series routers but not on 2500 series routers! > > > > It's just not happening here! > > > > But hey....that's not a problem, don't mind expanding my horizons >and > > if and when I find an answer, I 'll post some feedback here. > > > > Thanks for the info Dave.... > > > > Priscilla....my apologies! > > > > Off I go....to CCO! > > > > Stefan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf >Of > > MADMAN > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:13 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: serial up/up w/o cable [7:27604] > > > > Tell you what, I got it to work just fine: > > > > interface Serial4/1/3 > > no ip address > > no ip directed-broadcast > > ip route-cache distributed > > loopback > > no keepalive > > no cdp enable > > > > C7507MIX#sh int ser 4/1/3 > > Serial4/1/3 is up, line protocol is up > > Hardware is cyBus Serial > > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec, rely 255/255, load >1/255 > > Encapsulation HDLC, crc 16, loopback set > > Keepalive not set > > Last input never, output never, output hang never > > Last clearing of "show interface" counters never > > Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: >0 > > Queueing strategy: weighted fair > > Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) > > Conversations 0/0/256 (active/max active/max total) > > Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) > > 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec > > 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec > > 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer > > Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles > > 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort > > 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns > > 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets > > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out > > 3 carrier transitions > > RTS up, CTS up, DTR up, DCD up, DSR up > > > > Dave > > > > Stefan Dozier wrote: > > > > > > I don't think it will Priscilla! Even with the encap HDLC, > > > the DCD (carrier detect) control lead must be high in order > > > for the interface status to be in an "up" condition. The > > > only way I know to accomplish that is with a cable inserted > > > or some type of serial loopback plug, if there's such an > > > animal. > > > > > > And obviously you can't have "line protocol" in an "up" state > > > if the interface status isn't in an "up" state! > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf >Of > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:55 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: serial up/up w/o cable [7:27604] > > > > > > At 06:52 PM 11/28/01, Tom E wrote: > > > >How can you get a serial interface to go up/up without a cable >connected? > > > I > > > >have tried loop and no keep. > > > > > > What's the encap? I thought this would work if you used HDLC. > > > > > > Priscilla > > -- > > David Madland > > Sr. Network Engineer > > CCIE# 2016 > > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 612-664-3367 > > > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" >-- >David Madland >Sr. Network Engineer >CCIE# 2016 >Qwest Communications Int. Inc. >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >612-664-3367 > >"Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" ________________________ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=27755&t=27604 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]