To be honest I have never tried such a thing but I thought it made
sense that if I enabled loopback the interface should come up.  I now
tried reenabling keepalives and the interface is still up but it shows
itself to be in the looped state:

C7507MIX#sh int ser 4/1/3
Serial4/1/3 is up, line protocol is up (looped)

 Which makes sense as it's seeing it's own keepalive packets come back
via the loop.

  I can't do this on a 2500 either but I can't tell you why, any Cisco
hardware engineers out there??

  oh well it's pretty much acedemic anyway, cableless serial interfaces
are about as useful as a three legged horse.

  Dave

Stefan Dozier wrote:
> 
> Dave....
> 
> If there's no cable installed in Serial4/1/3, obviously I (atleast)
> need to broaden my level of research on why you do can accomplish
> that feat on 7500 series routers but not on 2500 series routers!
> 
> It's just not happening here!
> 
> But hey....that's not a problem, don't mind expanding my horizons and
> if and when I find an answer, I 'll post some feedback here.
> 
> Thanks for the info Dave....
> 
> Priscilla....my apologies!
> 
> Off I go....to CCO!
> 
> Stefan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> MADMAN
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:13 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: serial up/up w/o cable [7:27604]
> 
> Tell you what, I got it to work just fine:
> 
> interface Serial4/1/3
>  no ip address
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip route-cache distributed
>  loopback
>  no keepalive
>  no cdp enable
> 
> C7507MIX#sh int ser 4/1/3
> Serial4/1/3 is up, line protocol is up
>   Hardware is cyBus Serial
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255
>   Encapsulation HDLC, crc 16, loopback set
>   Keepalive not set
>   Last input never, output never, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
>   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
>   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
>      Conversations  0/0/256 (active/max active/max total)
>      Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>      0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
>      Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>      0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
>      0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
>      0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets
>      0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
>      3 carrier transitions
>      RTS up, CTS up, DTR up, DCD up, DSR up
> 
>  Dave
> 
> Stefan Dozier wrote:
> >
> > I don't think it will Priscilla! Even with the encap HDLC,
> > the DCD (carrier detect) control lead must be high in order
> > for the interface status to be in an "up" condition. The
> > only way I know to accomplish that is with a cable inserted
> > or some type of serial loopback plug, if there's such an
> > animal.
> >
> > And obviously you can't have "line protocol" in an "up" state
> > if the interface status isn't in an "up" state!
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: serial up/up w/o cable [7:27604]
> >
> > At 06:52 PM 11/28/01, Tom E wrote:
> > >How can you get a serial interface to go up/up without a cable
connected?
> > I
> > >have tried loop and no keep.
> >
> > What's the encap? I thought this would work if you used HDLC.
> >
> > Priscilla
> --
> David Madland
> Sr. Network Engineer
> CCIE# 2016
> Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 612-664-3367
> 
> "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"
-- 
David Madland
Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
612-664-3367

"Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"




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