having expressed similar sentiments myself, I'm not disagreeing in principal.
However, I would suggest that there is still MUCH of value in the bootcamp labs. Being a two time loser, I am re-examining my study methods. One of the conclusions I've reached is that I have been looking at the practice materials in a less than optimal manner. I still believe that one major part is correctly identifying the core topics, and mastering them. But I am adding a bit of dimension that I have been overlooking. for example - if I were to determine that redistribution was a core topic, then instead of concentrating merely on redistributing between protocols ( something that still should be studied ) I should also concentrate on gaining familiarity with various tools that can be used for redistribution and route filtering. that might mean distribute lists, route tagging, and route maps, and various combinations of them all. If I believe that ip telephony is a core topic, then I might want to familiarize myself with the kinds of things that must be done to set up dial peers in various ways. And there are a lot of ways to do that, so I am discovering. if I believe that authentication is a core topic, then I might want to practice authentication for all the routing protocols that support it, and for NTP, which can use authentication. Not to mention ISDN PAP and CHAP. if I believe that .... well, you get the idea. One thing I think everyone who has gone through the lab will agree upon - the scenarios are designed to trip you up by requiring something that on the face of it is stupid. the most famous of these is the "no static route" rule that seems to have become common knowledge. there are a number of others, all designed to screw reachability, which in turn costs you because you can't perform other tasks properly. I have heard others use the term "twisted" to describe some of the lab scenarios. that being the case, bootcamp labs do force one to think in a similar "twisted" manner. as to NLI "making a buck of those pursuing their CCIE" more power to them. Hell, Cisco is making a buck on that too. best wishes. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512] I was looking in to purchasing the labs from ccbootcamp, but correct me if I am wrong, they look outdated and full of annoying little errors. Ccbootcamp says that it is a subscription but how many have they sent out in the last 3 months? Zero! Or even the last six months. One! This just looks to be a big scam! These guys wouldn't last a minute if there was some real competition, who made worth while labs. What a joke. Maybe, since we are all in this together, we could collectively make some labs and share them among the group. I will release some of the ones I have been working on for FREE after I refine them. I say forget ccbootcamp. They just want to make a buck. Its time this group got some quality labs with out having to spend even more money! -jason Pissed off individuale, tired of people making a buck of OUR quest for the CCIE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29595&t=29512 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
