according to the tenets of socialism, a publisher would be compensated only
the cost of producing the book. i.e. the cost of paper, the cost of ink, the
cost of binding, etc. authors would be compensated based on their need.
Since, under socialism, everyone is equal, all you writers would live in the
same quality shack the rest of us live in, and you would therefore get about
the same as you do now. ;->

under the tenets of socialism CCIE's would achieve because it is "according
to their ability" and they would be compensated only enough to support them
and their shack, which is identical to those of non CCIE's.

Sure makes one wish for socialism ;->

Merry Christmas.

Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 5:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ccbootcamp part 2 [7:29682]


At 05:40 PM 12/24/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:

>3) books cost too much, and too many of them, particularly in the
>certification arena, are of limited value. Still, I have no reasonable
>expectation that a publisher owes me the opportunity to buy only particular
>chapters, or give me my money back after I have discovered how useless
their
>title is. I can't remember the title of that Upton Sinclair socialist book
>published in the early part of the century, but IIRC, there was an
>interested discussion in their about cost of books and compensation to
>authors. "From each according to his ability and to each according to his
>need" was twisted mightily in that justification, IIRC.

I can't follow your logic, but regarding compensation to authors: We make
enough on each book sold to cover the cost of a latte. That's all. We don't
see the money. ;-)

You may be thinking of the Abbie Hoffman book "Steal this Book." Just
kidding!

Priscilla


>Something else to consider. I've rented rack time from both NLI and IP
>Expert. With NLI, I was able to call, and have someone actually test some
>voice configurations I was working on. With IP Experts, no such help was
>available. NLI has been quite responsive to calls for support. IP Expert
>leaves something to be desired there. I say that even though I prefer IP
>Expert training materials at this point in time, for reasons I have stated
>elsewhere.
>
>Best wishes and merry Christmas.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Wojtek Zlobicki
>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 1:51 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: ccbootcamp part 2 [7:29682]
>
>
> > Developing effective methods for knowledge transfer requires creativity,
> > skill, time, money, awareness of the audience and their learning styles,
> > and other resources. The results may be proprietary and there's nothing
> > wrong with charging for them. I can't comment on the pricing. (Setting a
> > good price has always seemed like a black art to me, having only taken
one
> > business/marketing type class in my life.) It does seem like different
> > prices for different countries makes sense, as others have said.
>
>A copy of your book graces my bookshelf (I have to admit that I have not
>had a chance to read it yet).  I do not mind paying for the book.  There
are
>a number of people here financing their own CCIE, it would be nice if the
>labs were available in parts (I would be interested in labs 1-10 for
>example).
>The labs are extensive (having seen Lab 1 as an example) but are they
>really worth $650.  After having sold 100/1000/2000 lab sets, it becomes
>less and less clear to me why the $650 fee is warranted.  For $650 I can
>buy about 10 books that help me prep for my CCIE.  Are the works of
>Doyle, Halabi, Caslow, Lee et all now worth as much.  I don't believe
>that each lab takes more work that a book such as yours or Halabi's,
>the $650 fee may have been appropriate during the boom but
>I do not believe that such a fee is still reasonable.
________________________

Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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