Would you mind sharing your opinion as to which labs were better... and why?

The k1d



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> Not me, I paid alot of $$$$$  And I paid for Marc's labs too, I thought
they
> were great.
>
> It ain't cheap, but what in life that's worth anything is?
>
> Mitch
> CCIE #6011
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ccbootcamp part 2 [7:29682]
>
>
> Seems like this list will always have someone, like this  - Jason, where
> every six months or so they will come along and downplay the CCIE cert. or
> those that make $$$ from the CCIE cert. process. Whatever happened to that
> biggest of ranter's - Mr. PKM??? I never heard Derek Small of fatkid.com
> whine or complain about anything or anyone - HE JUST DID IT!
>
>     Jason, is it, remember talking s*** and doing it are two different
> things!   JUST DO IT!!! - quietly please : )
>
>     Just the other day I sold a PIX to a guy that told me he was going to
> build a CCIE Security lab and put it online for everyone to use for FREE.
> His eye's kind of glazed over when I pointed out the cost of building a
full
> lab, supplying a circuit and the monthly electrical bill for 24x7x365.
That
> was probably the least of his concerns since he claimed to be able to
write
> a 40 page lab in a single weekend and then sell it for a $1000. Although,
I
> thought he was going to cry because I wouldn't take a lousy $100 off the
> price of the PIX!!!
>
>     With these type on individuals on the loose I have no worry about an
> endless supply of work for me....I believe manager's call it - "Cleaning
up
> the corporate network."  : )
>
> Eric
>
> PS - How many CCIE's on this list got there cert for little or no
> cost$$$....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:30 PM
> Subject: RE: ccbootcamp part 2 [7:29682]
>
>
> > as an FYI, the fatkid labs are FREE
> >
> > www.fatkid.com
> >
> > many require just three or four routers plus frame switch. you can
always
> > use a hub or a mau instead of a switch.
> >
> > the Parkhurst BGP book has a LOT of GOOD practice using just three
> routers.
> >
> > Much of Doyle can be accomplished with just a few routers.
> >
> > Imagination and resourcefulness are also free.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > c1sc0k1d
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: ccbootcamp part 2 [7:29682]
> >
> >
> > Good idea... I'll work on one also but I won't be able to get to it till
> > early next year.  I'll let you know...
> >
> > The k1d
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Jason""  wrote in message
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> > > Well to start of this exchange of labs maybe we should set some basic
> > > foundations:
> > >     1.  All labs should not exceed more than 6 routers.
> > >             I think we all know why this should be the case.
> > >     2.  The frame cloud in every lab should not exceed four
connections.
> > >
> > >             I have spoken to several people who complain about the
> > > current competition use 5 connections in the frame cloud.  Most of us
> > > only have the four port
> > >            2500  at home that acts as a frame switch.
> > >     3.  Keep it up to date.
> > >             How difficult is it to do a practice lab while trying not
to
> > > be distracted by some technology that is not on the test any more.
> > >     5.   Keep it original.
> > >             Create your own work, don't take a lab out of Halabi's
book,
> > > add an extra router, then slap a 650 dollar price tag on it.
> > >     4.  Keep it FREE.
> > >             I don't know about the rest if you, but after dropping
> > > 13,000 dollars in a lab at home, and 4,000 dollars in training,
spending
> > > an extra 650 just hurts.
> > >
> > > I think my game plan is, at least for the first few labs, to create a
> > > map in visio with some core requirements.  Then the group can suggest
> > > such things as Local Area
> > > Mobility, NAT, etc that can be incorporated in to the lab.
> > >
> > > Where can we post the labs? Can every one read visio?  Do we have to
> > > send it out in a different format?
> > >
> > > And yes Marc, the email is bogus.  I did not want to be spammed by you
> > > or your affiliates.




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