>That would be like if I asked you how TCP works and you said, isn't TCP
>just data within an IP packet? Now I'm asking you to consider how
>application-layer protocols work. They have operations also. In the case of
>HTTP, there are many commands. The question is how are the commands
>encoded? It's yet another variety (beyond bit-oriented and byte-oriented)
>that is worth considering.

To say nothing about self-defining data provided to the application 
layer by presentation layer protocols such as ASN.1, XDR, etc. 
These are not particularly bit-at-a-time, but variable length 
type-length-value strings.

>
>The data is HTML-encoded text, GIFs, etc, which isn't too interesting (from
>our perspective). HTTP is rather interesting, however. So is FTP,
>especially since it has a tendency to break in many environments.
>
>And you didn't answer me how TCP operations, such as SYNs are encoded.
>
>Well, we've gotten off topic. I think it should be "on topic," but Cisco
>test developers don't tend to consider these issues. ;-)
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>At 03:51 PM 2/7/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
>>""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>  > At 03:26 PM 2/7/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>>  >
>>  > >What is TCP? How is a SYN represented in TCP?
>>  > >
>>  > >What is HDLC? How is a GET represented in HDLC?
>>  >
>>  > That was supposed to say HTTP! HTTP, FTP, SMTP, POP and probably
others,
>>  > have yet another way of encoding control information.
>>
>>Isn't it all just data within the packets and not flags in a packet, like
in
>>TCP?
>>
>>It's byte-oriented
>>  > but a little different.
>>  >
>>  > And how about routing protocols? For example, how does EIGRP encode an
>>  > Update opcode? Is it different from how HTTP, FTP, etc. send control
>info?
>>  > And different from TCP?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > >What is FTP? How is a RETR represented in FTP?
>>  > >
>>  > >And how about Token Ring with its starting delimiter and ending
>>delimiters?
>>  > >And how should one interpret the Ethernet preamble?
>>  > >
>>  > >Also, aren't all protocols at some level processed a bit at a time?
>>  > >
>>  > >This is bad as the 7-layer discussions! ;-)
>>  > >
>>  > >Priscilla
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > ________________________
>>  >
>>  > Priscilla Oppenheimer
>>  > http://www.priscilla.com
>________________________
>
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