I can remember in the old days when experience was more important than certs
and having
certs was a plus.

Ko

"Steven A. Ridder" wrote:

> I'm more than a CCNA.  I was saying that back when I was a CCNA, I wouldn't
> have settled for less than 50K.  But you did bring up the good point that
in
> this economy a CCNA wouldn't get a job at 50K.  I guess that it could be
> true.
>
> --
> RFC 1149 Compliant.
>
> ""nrf""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that even
> > before
> > > becoming a CCNA.  I would never settle for 50k, even in this econ.,
> >
> > If you're just a CCNA and you won't settle for 50k now, well then you
> might
> > be out of work for some time - a very very long time.
> >
> >
> > > especially as a CCIE.  Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp., and
> lots
> > > of it.  Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE - cisco
> > > certified internet EXPERT!
> > >
> > > --
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
> > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even land
a
> > job
> > > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to the
> > > field.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A CCNA makes more than 50k.  And you wouldn't have to pay your
company
> > to
> > > > work for them and get training.  Most companies pay you and pay for
> your
> > > > training.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > > >
> > > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > I've taken some classes at ICTP. From what I gather, their CCIE
> intern
> > > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program (which
> is
> > > not
> > > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I
> vaguely
> > > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can work
> as
> > a
> > > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially   less money than a
> > CCIE
> > > is
> > > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that) but for
> > > those
> > > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this
> program),
> > > it
> > > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the program
> > more
> > > in
> > > > > detail.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Sean
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a slice of
> the
> > > > > dough for awhile??  Just speculating of course..
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery will we
> > > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-)
> > > > > > Can you clarify this??
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]
> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in
anaheim
> > > > > > >california
> > > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through our
> very
> > > > > intense
> > > > > > >cisco training, also to note that upon finishing the program CEA
> > > (cisco
> > > > > > >expert academy)you can be eligible for an internship... we have
> > > > > information
> > > > > > >session going on every other friday, so if this sounds
> interesting
> > to
> > > > > you,
> > > > > > >or if you need a lab to study for the ccie or ccnp please give
me
> a
> > > > call.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Jason Lee
> > > > > > >IT specialist
> > > > > > >714-783-1083
> > > > > > >www.ICTP.com
> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > > > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > > > > > http://www.hotmail.com




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