I think that's coming back to being more true again. A cert in a certain product is not what the better IT managers look for, systems in general are what they want. The proverbial "they" are looking for people that can do everything from network, Unix, NT, sniffers, and mainframes, etc. to give the higher paying jobs. Moral of the story.... Diversify.
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ko haag" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091] > > > > I can remember in the old days when experience was more important than > certs > > and having > > certs was a plus. > > > > Ko > > > > "Steven A. Ridder" wrote: > > > > > I'm more than a CCNA. I was saying that back when I was a CCNA, I > wouldn't > > > have settled for less than 50K. But you did bring up the good point > that > > in > > > this economy a CCNA wouldn't get a job at 50K. I guess that it could be > > > true. > > > > > > -- > > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > > > ""nrf"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that even > > > > before > > > > > becoming a CCNA. I would never settle for 50k, even in this econ., > > > > > > > > If you're just a CCNA and you won't settle for 50k now, well then you > > > might > > > > be out of work for some time - a very very long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > especially as a CCIE. Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp., > and > > > lots > > > > > of it. Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE - cisco > > > > > certified internet EXPERT! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > > > > > > > ""Sean Knox"" wrote in message > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even > land > > a > > > > job > > > > > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to > the > > > > > field. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:50 PM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A CCNA makes more than 50k. And you wouldn't have to pay your > > company > > > > to > > > > > > work for them and get training. Most companies pay you and pay > for > > > your > > > > > > training. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Sean Knox"" wrote in message > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > > > I've taken some classes at ICTP. From what I gather, their CCIE > > > intern > > > > > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program > (which > > > is > > > > > not > > > > > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I > > > vaguely > > > > > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can > work > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially less money than > a > > > > CCIE > > > > > is > > > > > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that) but > for > > > > > those > > > > > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this > > > program), > > > > > it > > > > > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the > program > > > > more > > > > > in > > > > > > > detail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a slice > of > > > the > > > > > > > dough for awhile?? Just speculating of course.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery will > we > > > > > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-) > > > > > > > > Can you clarify this?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jason Lee" > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee" > > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091] > > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in > > anaheim > > > > > > > > >california > > > > > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through our > > > very > > > > > > > intense > > > > > > > > >cisco training, also to note that upon finishing the program > CEA > > > > > (cisco > > > > > > > > >expert academy)you can be eligible for an internship... we > have > > > > > > > information > > > > > > > > >session going on every other friday, so if this sounds > > > interesting > > > > to > > > > > > > you, > > > > > > > > >or if you need a lab to study for the ccie or ccnp please > give > > me > > > a > > > > > > call. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jason Lee > > > > > > > > >IT specialist > > > > > > > > >714-783-1083 > > > > > > > > >www.ICTP.com > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > > > > > > > http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36458&t=36091 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
